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Thanks Nick + Sharks’ Drunk Mailbag



Farewell, Nick!

Nick Flohr is leaving the San Jose Hockey Now Podcast because of some (good) life news. I’ll miss you, Nick!

For Nick’s last pod, we decided to have some fun – we hosted an open mailbag and kept the drinks going all night.

It was a rollicking good time! Tears were shed, beer was split, songs were sung, and of course, all your San Jose Sharks questions were answered.

But before we get to the mailbag, we take shots (1:30), then Nick plies me with his burning exit interview questions (3:30).

Here were your questions, in order:

@prairiebilbo: Who impressed you guys more between Eklund and Bordeleau during their short stints? And how are the two similar and/or different? (31:00)

@Mr_MrsPL8M8KER: Do you believe the San Jose Sharks will use Bordeleau, Leonard, Weatherby, and Gregor next year? If yes, what line will they play? I believe these guys take up the third and fourth lines. (42:30)

@AggrShark: Really happy with goaltending. Three starters in goal. Just curious on Reimer, I don’t see him being with the Sharks after his contract ends. (53:00)

@carter3dsp: How do you think the goalie situation plays out?

@DevinClark1: What are three major things the San Jose Sharks need to do to realistically fight for playoffs next year?

@S_to_the_Pon: Will Vegas fire Deboer? I still feel they fired Gallant for less.

@SnipeCity420: What is Sheng’s drink of choice? (1:09:30)

Will the SJHN podcast continue without fan favorite Nick Flohr?

Why am I your least favorite Twitter account?

What are three realistic moves the team can make to be taken seriously next season?

Who are your personal favorite candidates for GM?

@radioheadliner: Do you see Brandon Coe making any impact on the Sharks/Cuda next year? Do you think Alex Tuch (big body, good skater with scoring touch) would be a good comparison for him, albeit in a dream scenario? (1:26:30)

@hohosaregood: Any thoughts on the incongruence in the reporting that the GM will have full control of hockey operations and the various restrictions that seem to be in place by the search committee?

@D_Smizzman: #DrunkSheng needs to happen! More of a thought, than a question: I think Burns to Dallas makes sense. A ton of sense. Klingberg is gone and they need some help in the backend. I think Burns would waive [his trade clause] too as he has roots there. What say you? (1:40:00)

@kongo_kamel: Realistic top-six forward signing/trade this summer? (Fiala/Laine/Forsberg etc.)

@Xenothian: Who do you think will be the next surprise player on next season’s opening night roster? (1:50:50)

@FinCoe: What’s the best use of Bonino? Trade for a low or mid-pick, keep as 4C, keep as bottom-six winger?

@AlDaugereaux: What are the odds that Brent Burns gets traded? Odds of Vlasic buyout?

@boughbobner: Hindsight is 20/20. Going back to the 2008-09 season, what are three things you would do differently throughout the last 10-plus years? Not counting the EK9 extension, because that feels too obvious. Happy trails, friends! (2:03:50)

@greglehming: Assuming the San Jose Sharks don’t move up in the Draft lottery, do you see them trying to trade up in the Draft to get a higher pick?

@BayAreaSportsF: What do you expect Mario Ferraro’s next contract to look like? He’s an RFA and I have seen $4-5M per year bandied about and that seems high. Love the dude but I thought he had a very underwhelming season. (2:17:00)

Did Erik Karlsson quit the last two weeks of the season? It seems by his end-of-season comments that he wasn’t injured, but basically not wanting to risk an injury. Most likely so he could play for Sweden. Does seem like something that would [not] be well-received in the locker room.

@aj_strong: I want three takes from Sheng on how awesome Nick is. (2:23:30)

@C_Dyczkowsky: Here’s an easy one. What was @NickFlohr_’s favorite episode? And you can’t say all of them because I feel like you are the type to say that. (2:29:45)

@SharksJosh95: What makes #SJSharks Twitter unique? (2:44:50)

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Bring in the best candidate for GM. Period. I personally favor Tulsky. Hiring based solely on diversity is a huge mistake.

david barnard

it’s easy to say you don’t trust Bordeleau to play 3C. you want a good veteran, so does everyone. harder to name that player/players, and even harder to come up with contract that would attract a player of that ilk within the Sharks cap constraints. the Rangers will reportedly aggressively pursue re-signing Copp. Trocheck’s probably still on the move, but at what cost? NJ GM will reportedly use his draft picks to improve the team, up to and including the #5 overall. they’re also looking for goalie help and the Sharks have 3. all of them should be available to… Read more »


I agree with your 3C comment. And I love Timo and the step forward he took this year, BUT NJ isn’t giving you the equivalent of 3 first round picks + a solid Dman for him LOL

david barnard

don’t be so quick to LOL me. it’s pretty darn close to what it would cost them IF they just tried to offer sheet him away from us. Timo is due $10M at the end of his deal, and it’s not unreasonable for the Sharks to try to sign him long term prior to that at the “low, low, price” of $9Mx8. just go to CF and use their OS calculator. at max $10,276,830+ compensation would be: 4x1st round picks; from $8,221,464 to $10,276,829 it would be 2x1st/1x2nd/1x3rd. that’s just the OS route. so perhaps take Luke Hughes off and… Read more »

david barnard

Hughes prob a bridge too far, but i still think a 5v5 play driver, who puts up points as a top 10 F, and plays defense as well is worth at least what the OS compensation states for his contract value range: 2x1st, 1x2nd, and 1x3rd. i revised my package deal in another thread to: Holtz+2022 1st+Salminen (3rd rd pick)+Siegenthalar (2nd rd pick) and thru in Leonard’s rights+one our 7th round picks. also, i didn’t say it would improve the Sharks now, i said the NJ GM would trade all/any of his picks to improve THEIR team now. however, this… Read more »

Last edited 12 days ago by david barnard

fwiw, I think NJD would be making a mistake trying to add Timo by giving up promising young players + picks. They are 1-2 years away from making this sort of splashy move. They have a talent surge, and as those players get experience, they’ll become good NHL players. There a few teams like this, including ANA and LAK — though LAK is ahead of schedule!!

david barnard

still, he’s put up 44 pts in 77 GP. he’s no Timo Meier. they still got 2x1st’s for him plus other assets.


On the 3 mistakes. I’ll skip the draft mistakes, though trading down 7 spots for Goldobin was worse than trading up for Mueller. Guys who went between 20 and 26 include Pastrnak (!!), Schmaltz, Fabbri, Kasperi Kapanen & Jared McCann!! But drafting is so hit and miss, you can find major ‘mistakes’ in pretty much every draft. Heck Timo was taken ahead of Mikko Rantenen. My 3 mistakes: Resigning EK65. fwiw, playing him while hurt was a huge problem and I thought so at the time (I wrote about it, too). It was all risk and no reward. The Vlasic… Read more »


Vegas also gave the keys to the kingdom to Stone after acquiring him. We were not able to do such a thing. We couldn’t even sign Gus, who played rather well for us.
So much is said with an NHL’97 mentality. So much more goes into trades than we are privy to. A team can’t just make trades as they do in video games. It’s just not the real world.
It’s nice to chat about though.


Doug Wilson traded with an NHL’97 mentality. And landed, among others, Jumbo, Boyle, Burns, EK65, Heatley and EK9. Not every player worked out as well as hoped, but that is an enormous amount of talent.


Sharks had a 2nd rounder they were sending to Ottawa and could have upgraded to a 1st (it only automatically upgraded IF the Sharks resigned EK65). Could have locked that in as a 1st. Among the pieces they could include: Merkley, Labanc, Suomela, Sorenson (he had his best season) or another meaningful pick. If you are going ‘all in’, you get Stone and pay up for it. A few years before, the Kings got Gaborik, a reasonable cost player who came up big in their Cup run. I think too many GMs want a Gaborik-like trade — it cost the… Read more »


fwiw, went back to see what I wrote regarding Stone. Sharks had conditional parts of trades, which they could turn into commitments. “Perhaps the Sharks and Senators can strike a deal along the following lines. First, change the or to an and for the 2019 second round selections. Ottawa gets both, not one or the other. Second, offer the Sharks’ 2020 second-round pick. In return, San Jose gets Stone. Are a pair of second round picks enough? Not normally. But Stone improves San Jose’s chances of making the Stanley Cup Final, which improves Ottawa’s chances of getting the 2021 pick… Read more »

david barnard

trading up for Mueller was a problem in itself because they were drafting for a current “need” when they had no idea what their future “needs” would be by the time he’d be ready to fulfill said need. so, they rush him to the majors and we all know what happened. that’s why you don’t draft primarily by “need”. you try to project what your future needs might be based on how you’re building your team, but you still take the most talented at your pick. trading down is a good strategy (in general) because it allows you more kicks… Read more »

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