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Sharks Locker Room: Not Dark Yet…But It’s Getting There

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“It’s not dark yet, but it’s getting there,” as the Bob Dylan song goes.



The San Jose Sharks, on a four-game losing streak, came out of the Olympic break on Thursday, believing the three weeks off would spark their flickering playoff hopes.

And through two periods, that seemed to be the case, as a more energetic Sharks squad was all over the Calgary Flames. Per Natural Stat Trick, San Jose was dominating 5-on-5 shot attempt share, 39-20, and high-danger chances, 9-4.

But the Sharks, stymied by Dustin Wolf, went into the final frame tied at one apiece.

This is where playoff teams take over. And this is where the San Jose Sharks’ many flaws were exposed.

An early third period Connor Zary strike, off what head coach Ryan Warsofsky called a “terrible” line change, in part by Will Smith, highlighted one flaw, the skilled Sharks’ relative inexperience.

This line change appeared to contribute to Warsofsky sitting the 20-year-old point-per-game scorer during a late 6-on-5, when San Jose was down.

The Zary goal, also, might have also been one that Yaroslav Askarov would like back, highlighting another flaw. Askarov wasn’t bad tonight, but Wolf was better. It’s been a while since the talented 23-year-old netminder, navigating his first season as the Sharks’ starter, has been consistently good.

Six minutes later, Nazem Kadri put the nail in the coffin, taking advantage of an unforced Timothy Liljegren turnover to score his second goal of the game.

There’s no doubt, the Sharks organization’s blueline depth is lagging far behind that of their forward group. There’s not a bona fide playoff-caliber defense between the NHL and AHL, not yet.

Finally, Mikael Backlund scored an empty-netter for good measure, off a Macklin Celebrini turnover.

This was not the San Jose Sharks superstar’s finest effort, but obviously, he’s just come back from a grueling Olympics, physically and emotionally, and needed a pick-up, which his teammates could not provide.

The Sharks simply don’t have enough horses around Celebrini yet: They’re 1-11-2 when he doesn’t put up a point.

San Jose does have two games in hand on the two wild card playoff teams, the Utah Mammoth and Seattle Kraken, and they’re just five points behind the Kraken, which seems smaller when you consider the games in hand.

But the Mar. 6 Trade Deadline is also looming. The Sharks have three games before the Deadline, three potential wins that might encourage GM Mike Grier to buy, three potential losses that might force him to sell.

Ryan Warsofsky

Michael Misa

Misa, on Wolf’s 34-save performance:

I thought when we got some traffic in front, it was harder for him to stop, and we had some rebounds off it, but ultimately, we got to probably shoot more.

Timothy Liljegren

Liljegren, on his turnover on Kadri’s second goal:

That was just, overall, a bad play. I was trying to make a quick play up, up to the weak side, but I had time to skate the puck and make a way better play. I don’t think it was bad luck. Was just a very bad play.

Kiefer Sherwood

 

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SnarkFan

Ok good. Coach liked Misa tonight too. Hopefully that means he doesn’t sit. Thought he played a very responsible, mature game. Didn’t do anything dumb and really charged down the puck.

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Jeff

I guess the rest of the team did all the dumb things, eh? But, the coach like him, huh? Why doesn’t that make me feel better? Why is Smith asleep?

SnarkFan

kind of a dumb comment buddy. Do better.

SnarkFan

I do agree that wasn’t Smiths best effort. Why can’t he stay on his feet? Dude better seriously hit the gym harder this off season.

Jaws

Smitty looked like he was taking bong rips between face offs and I really hope his laziness and brain fog was the result of the tail end of illness and/or physical rust and not due to partying!?

Warso was spot on to sit him down and knows how to push the right Bostonian buttons to get the most out of him IMO

jrauh

Indeed; could be a telling off-season for Smith. No physical presence whatsoever.

SnarkFan

Plenty of games for this team to show us something this season.

BrianJ

NBC Sports California embarrassed Drew Remenda via putting him on radio, replacing him on television with Jamal Meyers (not close to the talent of Drew Remenda as the expert commentator), after the long time of no games due to the Olympics. It makes it a bit of a special game, not the game to place the secondary expert commentator on television.

Perhaps NBC Sports makes a statement about the future of the position of the expert commentator on television for Sharks’ games. Drew Remenda does a great job.

Herb

Sorry but I’ll take Jamal any day over the master of the obvious name dropping sycophant. And also he doesn’t know more than an a former player. Ever look at his actual coaching ‘record’? About as long as your fingernail. Jamal does a better job. No rambling on with his alleged expertise or amazing insight. No rambling period

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Ricky LaFleur

Disagree.I didn’t hear jammer criticize much of anything, Drew always tells it like it is and doesn’t worry about calling them out.

SnarkFan

Agree 100%!

SnarkFan

Good lord, Jamal seems like a great dude but he has about as much personality as a pencil. Drew is light years better. More provocative, more critical, more entertaining.

Mr. T

You have a point about personality. At best, the comedy and chemistry between Drew and Randy is the best aspect of Drew. Drew also went through an entire whine about every call phase. Drew also went through an insane fixated on too many men phase. His analysis, if you can call it that, is rudimentary. He will literally just say where players are moving, mixed in with a cliche or two, as a pathetic attempt at a goal or goal against analysis. I have eyes Drew, I don’t need to just describe the play again as if I am a… Read more »

SnarkFan

Disagree.

jrauh

Two key (and important points) that Drew harps on are keep your feet moving and shoot the puck; two of the prime inconsistencies of the Sharks.

Fin Coe

I’m with you. I listened on the radio til I could get home to watch, and Drew is really carried by Rusanowsky imo.

jrauh

Jamal is stiff and non-compelling. Plus, it’s fun to see/hear the connection between Drew and Randy.

SnarkFan

Exactly. Their chemistry is rare. Frankly, at this point, Randy is a completely different announcer with Drew. Much more alive.

Ricky LaFleur

Calgarys second goal was a pathetic effort by will smith, he just completely gave up on a 50/50 puck and moped off the ice, he literally handed the puck to Calgary and said I’m done with this shift. And I guess Liljegren has absolutely zero hockey sense because he could have accomplished the exact same thing if he rimmed the puck safely around and out on the glass lmao. Dustin Wolf is an ultra polished goalie man he special.

WW

Smith has proven himself to be a legit scorer at the NHL level, but there has also been an alarming lack of compete on a lot of days. Unless there is some non-publicized injury, it might be a bad sign for the future.

SnarkFan

He’s so young still. As we’ve kept railing, don’t compare him to Celly. Shak is like 4-5 years older and has problems with compete here and there too.

NashvilleShark

“…don’t compare him to Celly”

This is the challenge for us Shark fans. Celly is turning out, so far, to be a generational type player. Complete game pretty much right out of the gate with ceiling to improve. He’s an outlier, not the benchmark.

Smith does have compete consistency issues. I’m sure Warso sees it if fans do. Hopefully he figures it out.

SnarkFan

Obviously Wario sees it, that’s why he clearly punished Smith for that bullshit junior league line change. Very lazy and selfish.

WW

I’m not holding him up to Celebrini’s standard, since he is unique. But lack of compete is that’s hard to fix. Rough edges around the game can be coached. Defense can be coached. Judgment on when to take a penalty can be coached. But if a player isn’t willing to battle and play 60 minutes, I’m not sure that can be coached.

We’ll see. This is something else where I’ll be happy to be proven wrong.

SnarkFan

Look at the number of games he’s played in his career so far. It ain’t a lot. Give him time. He’s clearly very competitive if he would have led college hockey in scoring. He wouldn’t be almost a PPG scorer in the NHL. Don’t forget where his game started last season. I’m giving this a one off for his lack of focus. Let’s see how he does down the stretch before we throw him in the wood pile.

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WW

No, he is way too talented to give up on. Even at this stage he hovered around a point per game. Just commenting on what might be worrying trend for down the road.

I freely admit it’s just appearances. He was injured earlier and maybe it’s a thing that’ll work out over time.

SnarkFan

I don’t think the assessment about compete with him is valid at this point. If you have younger siblings and you dominate them physically that isn’t due to a difference in compete level. It’s a difference in physical and mental maturity. Smith is still finding his way in the best league in the world. By all accounts from previous teammates, he’s incredibly competitive. He just lacks the physical tools to impose his will at this point. I’ll pass judgment in a couple or few years. The fact he’s a scored at the rate he has is a testament to just… Read more »

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Jaws

He’s young and cocky but hasn’t developed the work ethic. He will!

jrauh

We don’t know that but let’s hope so.

SnarkFan

Enjoy your moment in the sun ripping on Smith.😜 Coach already called him out. Not the first time a 2nd year player messed up and won’t be the last. Dickinson had a couple major fuckups too. Just didn’t end up in the net. Bet Celly is going to be on him as well. this is the season to get that shit out of their system. One thing I hadn’t considered… if Smith doesn’t clean up his defensive game, maybe Celly and he break up? That opens all kinds of options trade wise for Grier. Obviously not this season but a… Read more »

Zeke

I’ve been in the ‘Smith at C’ camp for a long time (might not be much of a camp, more of a solo thing), because it’d be his best development path. Would it make this season’s team better? Probably not. Worse? Maybe a bit, but not much. I’ve emphasized organizational ‘honesty’ a bunch and really being honest about where this team is. The deeper into this season we’ve gone, the more concerned I’ve become. Where this team is remains a point of contention. The Sheng vs Boyle conversation in the last podcast being an example. That said, there’s almost nothing… Read more »

NashvilleShark

Celebrini, Misa, Wennberg all seem fairly “locked in” at C. I’m curious to know which line you believe Smith would best help his development? Misa seems to be succeeding at 2C. Smith isn’t taking over 1C. So, would the move be Wennberg out to wing with Smith at 3C?

Zeke

Pretty much. Think Smith in the 2C spot because Misa is just not physically as ready.

I’m less concerned with the wingers because that’s going to evolve as the wingers evolve. Guys like Musty and Chernyshov will phase out guys like Toffoli and Wennberg in the next few years.

But for now, having Smith with savvy veteran wingers while running his own line — sign me up. Thing is, I was on board with that in October …

Lucas

Misa might be less physically ready than Smith but he’s far more willing to get messy on the boards and has a much higher effort level than Smith. I think he’s pretty clearly a better center than Smith already before you even get to things like puck transportation or faceoffs.

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Zeke

I take your point. I really like Misa, has wonderful skills and a NHL mind. But its a man’s game and he’s going to get hit a lot more buy guys lot bigger, faster and stronger than anything he’s ever dealt with.

Its OK to recognize he’s NHL ready in some ways, not in others.

As for Smith, I want him to have more responsibility. At this point in his career, I’d rather he struggle in a bigger role like 2C than be good in a lesser role.

SnarkFan

Good point on wanting Smith to struggle. Frankly I think he wouldn’t struggle at 3c.

Doug

even at Misa’s young age, he’s far more ready for 2c than Smith is. Smith is a couple years older but he’s negligibly more physically developed and stronger than when he came into the league. And Misa has the right mental approach. I’ll predict right now that they need to boost Smith’s stock as much as possible and when the time is right, hopefully they can get a really good defensive prospect back, or another piece that fills a vital hole.

SnarkFan

Frankly I think Misa is already built better physically than Smith. He’s certainly more explosive skating wise and a better puck transporter.

SnarkFan

Yup, that game shouldn’t be driving major decisions on any of the players. Let’s see where everyone is at after the season.

Ricky LaFleur

Liljgrens gaff was waaaay more forgivable because its was just a stupid decision, but will’s was just the complete antithesis of give a fuck factor or whatever you profess he’s oozing with.

jrauh

“Forgivable” isn’t the right word. It was an egregious lapse of judgment; do not send pucks up the middle. Period.

Doug

dude, shut up like you know more than you do. I beat the crap out of guys like you on and off the ice for years. It doesn’t matter if Smith is young. His consistent lack of compete as the game gets physical is a mentality that is one of the hardest attributes to change. Mistakes are going to happen and I don’t begrudge him young player mistakes, but it’s his body language out there that gives him away. When he knows he has to make a play that has potential physical implications, he just appears to retreat and go,… Read more »

Jaws

Hope it doesn’t go that way 😭
Smith is far and away my favorite current player and hopefully a shark forever (or close to it) but I’d kick him off the deck of the ship if that’s what it would take to truly win it all 🤷🏻‍♂️

I think he will be fine long term and probably end up getting his name etched along with Celly on at least one cup hopefully more!!??

Matt Harrison

I was at the game and was yelling at that line change too. I didn’t even really realize it was Smith at the time. But that goal was horrible, just gave up and drifted toward the bench with the play going on *right* behind him. I love Smitty and will afford him some grace but yeah, it was pretty unacceptable. Obviously Warso let him know, so hopefully we don’t see that again. Dustin Wolf was on fire. Absolute brick wall last night. Dude is so good with his stick – just swiping pucks away from the net after being peppered,… Read more »

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Ricky LaFleur

I noticed that too! How he swipes pucks out of harms way quick as a hiccup like I said he’s polished AF not just a lightning quick athletic goalie

Jeff

For me, Askarov is a giant question mark. I know the team would like him to be our Nabakov for the next decade, but I think they should keep their eyes out for another goalie who will at least match his performance and either drive him off the ice or push him over the hump. The guy just can’t last a full game most nights. Hopefully Ravensberg is developing. I liked him when I saw him and he’s got great size. Plue, he’s ours.

Ricky LaFleur

They should call about Wolf! He’s a home town kid and he’s the best goalie in the league so what if he’s not a giant neither is Bob and he’s shown that it’s not all about being 6’4”

SnarkFan

They should have kept the other hometown kid who backs up wolf.

SnarkFan

I think when the defense gets better there will be less questions about goaltending.

Clark

Yea, Asky will be fine, but needs the d in front of him to improve. Orlov and maybe Mario are the only legit NHL d’men in my opinion. Dickenson will be good but not there yet.

jrauh

Vinny has had some moments; too bad he got hurt to derail some polish that he was starting to exhibit.

Matt Harrison

It’s hard to make big judgments about any goaltender, but especially a young one in his first real year as a starter, when the defense in front of him is so suspect.

SnarkFan

Exactly.

Mr. T

I don’t think it’s time to panic but to me, it’s lazy to just say he’ll be fine. There is concerning play. I posted on reddit and will look for replies from goalies. But (1) he continues a long term trend of getting burnt hi blocker (2) he dives face forward earlier and more often than other NHL goalies, essentially at that point he ha taken himself out of the play (3) he is not reading where shots are going far too often. This happened last night on a couple goals. He looks like he is being screened by 3… Read more »

Sobigred

What a disappointing way to return from the break. Still not totally sure how we went from dominating in the first to having no idea what we were doing in the third.

At least Misa looked really good tonight but my god we need to get Mack some help.

Herb

Love the Dylan reference Sheng

Joseph

Shuffling the lines after a 17-shot first period is an inexplicable decision, and cost San Jose the game.

NashvilleShark

Didn’t the line shuffling occur in the 3rd? 16-6 SOG in the first, 12-10 in the second, and then the dropoff 7-13 in Calgary’s favor in the 3rd. I think poor team execution, combined with another Liljegren brain lapse and high glove side goal that Asky should have stopped might have contributed more than shuffling lines?

Ricky LaFleur

I thought they switched wennberg and Mac the shift that will smith gave up on the puck and slowly came off like he was sulking? I thought that was the reason he acted like that, because Warso rewarded Graf.

SnarkFan

Thought it happened after Smiths fuck up and he got punished, deservedly so.

Zeke

if he’s shuffling lines in game 1 out of the break to get players accustomed to each other again, I’d get it.

Personally, I’d take the first game back from the break to shuffle away. Maybe game 2 as well. Interchangeability is a very real thing in the NHL and accelerating that process by mixing lines for a game or 2 makes sense.

But I don’t think that’s why Warsofsky made the changes.

Matt Harrison

Being at the game I didn’t really notice serious line shuffling until the third period. We were worried Mack was hurt when we saw Wennberg take his spot… but I guess the first line became the 2nd/3rd for a minute? The blender got weird toward the end for sure.

Flying Frenchman

The Sherwood trade is looking worse than it did before, which was puzzling at best IMHO.

Al Golagnic

Grier presents things as it’s a unified front with him and Warsofsky in decision making. I wonder if it wouldn’t be better to have their be a GM and also a coach, and the coach coaches the players the GM provides. Warsofsky doesn’t have Bill Parcells’ resume where he should be getting to shop for the groceries. He dislikes skill. He makes an exception for Celebrini because even he isn’t that stupid. He’s only shown so far that he’s good at coaching pluggers suited for the AHL, or international competitions where the good players are playing in the NHL playoffs.… Read more »

SnarkFan

Al that is a wildly ignorant comment. He coached Granlund to one of his best offensive seasons and coached EK65 to one of the greatest seasons offensively by a defenseman in my lifetime and a Norris. You’re simply being bitter and throwing out hyperbole as though it was well reasoned commentary. Wario didn’t choose this shit defense core. Wario didn’t coach Smith to make a dumb ass junior level change.

Al Golagnic

I’ll believe this until he shows me some reason not to. If he gets the credit for good seasons from Granlund and Karlsson, then he also has to get the blame for not being able to keep Smith from making bad line changes. It’s not his coaching when they do well and the players’ fault when they do poorly.

The Granlund/Karlsson stuff plus who he plays on this team bring up the other question:

Why does a rebuilding team with young players that need to grow have a coach who wants to lean on veterans?

SnarkFan

You’re making the same error that Boomer always does…. blaming the coach for the roster the GM assembled.

Ricky LaFleur

It’s been 2 games! But do you want Sherwood to go on a tear for a week so you can hopefully get your money back at the deadline or do you hope he goes ice cold to finish the season to drive down his asking price this summer? If the sharks miss the playoffs of course.

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SnarkFan

Double D hopes for the worst possible outcome because that’s when he’s happiest.🤣

jrauh

What a stupid ass remark! Two games and as I stated on another thread, Sherwood was struggling early on against Calgary but then hit his stride and was hitting people and had a couple of grade A chances. You are commenting based on nothing.

Lucas

The #Identity line last night played a combined 22:30 at 5on5. In that time they combined for 3 shot attempts. All 3 shot attempts were blocked. For a team that is presently struggling to score goals and also supposedly wants to make the playoffs, maybe less focus on #Identity and more focus on out scoring the opponents would be good.

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SnarkFan

Good strategy. You should send Wario a sternly worded email.😜 I do agree that the 4th line needs changes though.

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NashvilleShark

“You should send Wario a sternly worded email.”

Don’t be like Chuck. 😀

SnarkFan

Chuck?

jrauh

Part of the problem that hasn’t been mentioned enough was that were making one pass
too many against Calgary. Get a body in front and SHOOT THE PUCK. Trying to make too fine a pass (that wasn’t even there) on several occasions.

Shark-Head

Get Muk in the lineup if we’re going to have mistakes I would rather have someone just getting started than having guys with 500 or more games doing it. Sam and Muk need to play!

SnarkFan

At this point I whole heartedly agree.

Pucktastic

I’m wondering if you’re getting too chummy with the coaching staff. The only criticisms in this article seem to be about player performance. The coach made some really terrible decisions changing the lines in the third period. The team was not playing that badly before all that mess. This one is squarely on the coach and most of them have been over the last five games.

Ty Comes

They were playing like ass, getting outcompeted, that’s why the lines changed

SnarkFan

Yeah Wario shouldn’t have coached Lily to spin and throw the puck blindly into the slot like a beer leaguer. He also shouldn’t have coached Smith to change at the most selfish possible time… yeah must be the coach. Not a youthful mistake that require punishment, or a shit ass defense core playing to their identity.😳

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Sarge

Well said

Pucktastic

Hard disagree here (perfect name btw) but that’s what it’s all about here, right? Sitting watching that game last night there was a mistake by Will and the defensive goofs aren’t forwards so that point is irrelavent to the point about the line shuffling. NOTHING worked from the first shift after the line juggling. The rest of the game was guys just batting the puck around in their own end. Exhausting the marginally talented D corps…Even more of a reason to blame the coaches. It was egregious and irresponsible. Warso is doing a subpar job and is pigheaded and favors… Read more »

SnarkFan

Wrong. How do I put this nicely…. you’re a light years worse fan than Wario is a coach. 😉

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maxi

I don’t think Warsofsky was doing well lately. Is the 25–26 season the last year of his contract?

NashvilleShark

Wait…

I don’t think Warsofsky was Ferraro, Liljegren, or Klingberg have been doing well lately. Is the 25–26 season the last year of his their contract?

Answer: Please, yes.

Sarge

The doom and gloom is upon us! Yes, these last games have made for a brutal watch. But, the performance is a reflection of the team, its talents and limitations. Presently, this is who the Sharks are. Going into the season most would be satisfied with the year to date results. In fact, they may have slightly surpassed reasonable expectations. They need some players in their prime. A top line winger and a #1 defenseman would go a long way. Easier said than done, obviously. You collect assets for a reason. It’s time to cash some in. Will it be… Read more »

Clark

Hey Sarge, I was coming here to type almost exactly what you stated. Most figured the Sharks would improve, but still only win like 30 or so games. They are ahead of where most figured at this point. This is the year to grow in the right direction, and they are. This is also a year where it would be good to see the ‘Cuda go deep in the playoffs and build through their youth. I don’t see much in their blue line prospect pool so IMO they will have to get that from the outside. Other than that, they… Read more »

Sarge

Cheers!

Lucas

The reason I’m being negative is because Grier is trying to get this team into the playoffs. He traded for Sherwood in part to try and get the Sharks to the playoffs this season. Grier’s actions are saying we as fans should be expecting wins and a playoff chase so that’s what I’m going to expect. Do I think the team is a playoff team or should be pushing to make the playoffs? Absolutely not but the GM does so I’m raising expectations for the play on the ice to match the GM’s expectations.

Sarge

Grier absolutely tried to get in the playoffs. And yes, the Sherwood trade is absolute proof. I loved that he pushed to get in the post season, but sadly, that dream is on life support. Time to recalibrate imo

Al Golagnic

I think they were were trying to walk that line of making an addition but not one just for this season. Somebody who could help but that they also want to have around beyond. Terrible way of going about it, but that was the thought. Typically when you do this, you have the extension signed when the deal is made. Why Grier saw how the Hurricanes screwed themselves over last year and thought “I want this for me, too!” we will never know. Jon Becher is also a guy only interested in the bottom line, couldn’t care less about a… Read more »

SnarkFan

He made one trade to reward his generational player for an amazing effort. Lets see how far he’s actually willing to go before shitting our collective pants.

SnarkFan

Perfect reasoning.

Jumbo’s Beard

A couple thoughts: 1) I was so disappointed with the Sharks performance last night. The lack of scoring capabilities up front beyond Mack and Will is disturbing. Put Gaudette, Reggie back in, and rotate each game Reavo, Goody, and Chuckie to play on their line. But that 4th line should no longer all play every game together. Sorry, not sorry. 2) Grier can’t wait until next Friday to pull the trigger on the logjam on the Sharks blue line. Send the UFAs packing ASAP even for a bag of pucks and bring in, by trading other assets, guys that will… Read more »

SnarkFan

So what’s the best option with the forwards at this point?

the 1st line dominated in the first so I’m keeping Sherwood with Celly for now. They desperately needed his physicality and it made a difference early.

Celly, Smith, Sherry (lol!)
wenny, Graf, Kurashev
Misa, Eklund, Toffoli
UpChuck, Gaudette, Regenda

Reavo, Goody

until Cherny gets called up that’s probably about it?

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Sarge

It’s not pretty, any way you organize the pairings. The current reality check was always near. Cherny, Misa and Sam gaining confidence and learning the NHL might be the most important element remaining this season.

Lucas

Trade Sherwood and Kurashev. Recall Chernyshov and run these lines.

Chernyshov-Celebrini-Smith
Eklund-Misa-Gaudette
Graf-Wennberg-Toffoli
Regenda-Ostapchuk-Reaves/Goodrow

Jaws

Dig It!
Maybe I would switch Adam and Tyler!?

SnarkFan

Assuming you’re right on the trades… I still don’t think Kurashev gets moved at the TDL. I prefer to capitalize on Cherny and Misa’s chemistry.

Graf-Celebrini-Smith
Regenda-Misa-Chernyshov
Eklund-Wennberg-Toffoli
Gaudette-Ostapchuk-Reaves/Goodrow

Zeke

My take is out there. Macklin, Regenda, Graf Smith, Wennberg (as a wing), Ostapchuk MIsa, Ekund, Toffoli Gaudette, Kurashev, Sherwood It won’t happen for many reasons. Sherwood isn’t going to play on the 4th line — though I think that’s a 4th line you can roll 12+ minutes per night. Smith isn’t getting moved to C, even though I think he’s better off developing there and having an experienced winger. Like having a banger to compliment Smith and Wennberg. Plus it gives Ostapchuk more ice time. Misa’s line has been working — at least its dangerous. Its unfortunate Eklund’s good… Read more »

Falco5

Seeing ostapchuk on the second line is giving me Kunin/Goodrow in the top 6 flashbacks. He needs to stay on the 4th line working on being a center. Pretty much any of that 4th line would be better there.

Zeke

I’d like to see him attempt to play above his pay grade. More ice time around better players.

If some players in this configuration are in a bit deep, I’m fine with that. Give them opportunity to become more than what they are at this moment.

Lucas

LeBrun talked about Sherwood in his trade rumblings article. Said a league source told him the Sharks are open to flipping Sherwood if they can’t reach an extension agreement before the deadline.

Zeke

Buccigross and Seravalli spoke about it, too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3cCMvhdCaA

brucellus

Unlike many on this board, they also mention Warsofsky as one of a handful coaches to be considered for the Jack Adams.

Al Golagnic

That’s fine. Like everyone here says, Grier will get a first round pick for him now. Even though the trade with the Sharks was made because the Canucks had learned to their satisfaction that they were not going to get one and Sherwood has zero points since then.

Dylan Smallwood

Zero points since when? The trade to the Sharks? 2-games?

Al Golagnic

So it’s your opinion that he’s increased in value since the trade? If not, what is the point of objecting to this fact being introduced?

Dylan Smallwood

You didn’t answer the question. I’m not following your logic. You mean pointless in the games in SJ? If so, it’s been TWO GAMES

Al Golagnic

I don’t need to answer the question. I am aware it’s been two games. Sherwood is not more valuable than he was, teams know they’d be bailing Grier out, they aren’t going to give him a win. If they thought Sherwood was good enough to pay more for him than Grier did, they would have done it then.

You’re trying to distract from the point with an irrelevant nitpick.

Dylan Smallwood

The one point you made is irrelevant because it’s been two games. That was, literally, the point you made. Second, that GM combo in VAN is ass. So, to say that the two seconds was the BEST value they could extract is just opinion, and not fact. The fact is GMs overpay all the time and VAN didn’t wait until post-Olympics and extracted what they THOUGHT was the best value given his injury at the time. If they don’t re-sign him they, 100%, could get a 1st for him or recoup the same/similar value they paid. It’s two seconds. If… Read more »

Al Golagnic

That’s all very stupid. I’ll be by to collect at the appropriate time.

Dylan Smallwood

Your comments all fall in the same vein. Just because you don’t agree with something doesn’t mean it’s stupid unless you, yourself, are stupid.

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jrauh

Amen and out!

SnarkFan

Can’t wait to hear what you plan to do with your winnings… It won’t make you feel less sad whatever it is.

jrauh

You are being ridiculous! Trying to force-feed your Sherwood theory after two games!!

Herb

The Sherwood situation is not going to end well. Kinda like the shark’s season. They got caught up in the momentary high, which is understandable after this long, but…here is reality again. Nobody magically playing above expected (or maybe even as expected). Mack can’t win by himself.

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Zeke

Hobey Baker (top college player award) conversation with The Athletic

Eric Pohlkamp gets some notable discussion at 13 min mark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZqMp_vjYY8

Graf gets a nice call out just past 36 min mark

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Brad Fitzpatrick

Anybody think Macklin is inviting McJesus over to Jumbo’s for dinner tonight? You can never start recruiting too soon… 😂

In all seriousness, I’m not optimistic about the Sharks chances tomorrow, but it would be fascinating to see it go to OT and see who Warso puts out on the ice. I really thought not starting Macklin in that last OT was an awful message to send to the team (“I don’t trust Macklin best on best – I need a better matchup”), and I would point out that the Sharks still haven’t won since that happened…

WW

Come on…that narrative is silly. You think Warsofsky’s message was seriously “Wennberg is our number one center and I’ll put him out there with two defensemen to score the winning goal?”

Sharks had already bagged the loser point. There’s no reason to play it safe. So you bet on a good defensive center in Wennberg plus two defensemen weather the storm for about 45 seconds. Then you put Celebrini, Smith, and maybe Orlov out there for the counterattack. Sharks have no scoring depth. It’s a reasonable decision to not want to burn out Celebrini defending against McDavid.

Brad Fitzpatrick

No, that is not what I am saying. EDM has a mediocre OT record despite having the players they have. They are not world beaters that require special strategy to win. That is just a fact. The Sharks had won 9 straight OT games because Celebrini is an OT cheat code. When a team has a belief that you will win if you go to OT because you have Celebrini, and with him you’ve won NINE straight times, you don’t leave him on the bench to start OT. It is a loser mentality to assume you are going to lose… Read more »

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