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The San Jose Sharks appear to know what they’re doing, when it comes to developing prospects.



Last year, there were many questions about the Sharks keeping rookie Will Smith in the NHL, especially after the 2023 No. 4 pick’s slow start.

Through Jan. 18 last season, Smith had six goals and 15 points in 40 games.

The Sharks had the option, in the summer, of giving Smith another year of development at Boston College. Even in-season, they could’ve sent the NCAA product down to the AHL’s San Jose Barracuda.

This year, there were many questions about the Sharks keeping rookie Michael Misa in the NHL, especially after the 2025 No. 2 pick’s slow start.

Through Jan. 16, in part because of injury and a tour of duty with Canada at World Juniors, Misa had one goal and three points in just 10 games.

The Sharks had the option, before Misa’s 10th NHL contest, of re-assigning the CHL product back to the OHL’s Saginaw Spirit.

In both cases, San Jose braintrust projected confidence that both teenagers would be able to learn on the fly and not be overwhelmed by the best hockey league in the world, a tall order, to be sure.

But San Jose should know their prospects better than anybody.

Smith certainly proved the Sharks right last season, racking up 12 goals and 30 points in his last 34 games.

And Misa appears to be following Smith’s footsteps, with three goals and nine points in his last 11 games, highlighted by his first-ever OT goal in a 2-1 win over the Winnipeg Jets on Sunday.

Extra-impressive for Misa, he’s doing it as a center, a big defensive challenge for any rookie, not to mention a 19-year-old.

Warsofsky is seeing improvement: “Winning pucks, and he’s playing with pace. His second effort on pucks is really impressive for a young man.”

“I’ve been just playing harder on guys, giving them extra cross-checks and stuff like that,” Misa said. “That can lead to offense.”

Case in point, in the second period on Sunday, Misa bumped star 29-year-old winger Kyle Connor off the puck and took it the other way.

Slowly but surely, Misa is getting better. While the San Jose Sharks, understandably, are still leaning heavily on the far more polished Macklin Celebrini and Alex Wennberg up the middle, Misa skated a career-high 15:39 this afternoon.

“He’s earned it. He has earned it by the way he’s played,” San Jose Sharks head coach Ryan Warsofsky said.

Ryan Warsofsky

Michael Misa

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WW

Misa is trending in the right direction, but judging one way or another based on 21 career NHL games is too soon.

Having said that, Warsofsky has had a lot of recent experience working with young players in the AHL and ECHL. His “fundamentals first” approach makes sense. It’s a patient approach that will make better NHL players in the long run. People here complain endlessly about John Klingberg. If you don’t want one-dimensional players like John Klingberg, you should support Warsofsky’s approach.

Zeke

I’m encouraged by Misa’s play. Though as I mentioned in the prior comments, I thought he made a poor decision on the GWG. Most of the time, that’s a turnover and in OT, you really want puck possession. He needed a fortunate bounce just to keep possession, let alone get off that good a shot. In the Olympics, we saw McDavid try to play hero in OT vs USA and it backfired in a big way. But we also saw Marner net an OT game with a hero play vs Sweden. OT is an odd place. Its really the rest… Read more »

Ricky LaFleur

I’m encouraged by the fact that he’s a big 18 year old pulling his own weight in the NHL and flashes explosiveness in his skating. Sometimes he reminds me of a cross between Marleau and Malkin, just in the way he skates and handles the puck in flashes. Not saying he’s anywhere near that yet. He doesn’t have the raw power of Marleau’s stride but it’s just as pretty.

Zeke

He’s got really good hockey sense. Knows where the passing lanes are so he can be disruptive on defense. Seems to map the ice well, where people are and where they’re going.

Its kinda funny to me that his top highlight comes from a poor decision.

As he gets bigger/stronger, I think he’ll be a handful for other teams because he’ll have multiple ways to be effective.

SnarkFan

Yup, been saying the same for a couple months at least. He may end being an incredible running mate for Celly.

kads

Just turned 19 over the break

SnarkFan

Great minds…

Larry Steinberger

Absolutely was reminding me of Marleau with that move. I think the Marleau-Malkin hybrid comparison is valid!

SnarkFan

He was a kid out in OT for the first two me. Coach probably told him to follow his instincts. He’s used to being the guy and for a moment he was. That charge up the middle reminded me of Patty. I’m sure the coach will review it with him on an off day. Right now best to enjoy it.

Zeke

That’s pretty much it.

Be happy for him, and have a chat at some point that suggests maybe he got away with one. In a way McDavid didn’t …

SnarkFan

I wouldn’t take that aggressiveness away from him. He saw Celly do it early and showed he could also do it. As he ads muscle he’s going to bull thru defenders on a play like that. I love that Wario doesn’t try to “take the stick out of the hand” of his young creative players. IMO you don’t do it with Misa either. Let him find the limits like you said Celly needed to do all last season.

kads

To be fair to McDavid, if MacKinnon skates that puck around the goal, there’s a stretch pass to McDavid and that game wouldn’t have lasted 5 more seconds.

I agree the play was not the safest by Misa, we are all surprised at that result, but again, the guys who were most surprised were Hadyn Fleury and Adam Lowry

Jeff

I agree with your take in general, but Misa’s GWG is only a goal by someone who has the talent to keep possesion of that puck and have the wherewithal to deliver it to the net. We often see Eklund in a chaotic rush to the net but he doesn’t seem to have the skills to finish, most often. Great players make great plays. I’m hoping this one was a sign of what is to come.

SnarkFan

Omg… I agree with you. It’s the end times.😳😜

WW

You may be right. But the thing about regular season OT is you already locked down the loser point. I think some higher risk plays are justified.

Zeke

So there I was, rafting down the Zambezi River and somewhere around 19 (rapid number), I see Laurence deciding to take a line that is destined for photographic glory. And it was, indeed, glorious. Everything and everyone goes flying. The images were awesome!! Higher risks play? Absolutely. Justified? As long as the only casualty was the oar that got bent to 90 degrees, not bad!! Its entirely possible Warsofsky told Misa, “just go for it”. That the Sharks entire attitude towards 3v3 is 88% ‘just go have fun” with 12%, “lets just be smart about there few things and not… Read more »

SnarkFan

Thank you for being a voice of reason.

Jeff

Don’t you think all of this development depends a lot on the quality of the prospect? With Misa’s track record in the minors, he was a phenomenally talented scorer. I would think sooner or later things would start to click with a prospect of that calibre. We are starting to see glimmers of that talent. There are no other prospects of his calibre that we have to develop. Perhaps some support players which are also essential for the NHL can be promoted, but the Sharks need to make some deals in the marketplace. No other avenue is open to us.

SnarkFan

Plenty of good prospects have had their development stunted by shitty coaches.

Sarge

Or, playing against men!

SnarkFan

True but a good development staff makes the proper judgement on who is ready to play against men and how much.

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SnarkFan

Another thing to consider the Wario haters bitxhing about his use and development of younger players… who did he send out as the 2nd line in OT for what was arguably a must win for the playoffs? Misa, Eklund, Dickinson.😉

Just Steve

Really good points (especially like you said, while they’re fighting to get into the playoffs!)

And dude, do you ever sleep?

SnarkFan

Yup, but was up in the middle of the night dealing with kids. 🙂

kads

Two more thoughts I haven’t seen posted yet… 1) The two guys Misa “stupidly” skated by, through and around were Adam Lowry and Hadyn Fleury. Fleury is 6’3″ 210 and Lowry is 6’5″ 210. It appears they underestimated both his speed and his strength as he really closed the space as he was heading down the middle, and Fleury expected to pretty easily shove him off the puck and it didn’t happen. It was a power move. For a guy who everyone says is a boy in skates, he made a couple of men look very bad. 2) Dickinson might… Read more »

SnarkFan

Great points. Misa had an awesome assist before the break while tied up with “men” on the boards as well. He may not be bulky but he’s still tall and strong.

Zeke

gonna be interesting to see what GMMG does with Sherwood. His play, thru just 4 games is consistent with a guy who’ll get $2.7mil for 3 years. Luke Kunin vibes. Kunin’s best was 15G, 16A season in 63 games. 0.5ppg. Sherwood’s best is this season, 23 pts in 48 games. 0.5ppg No way GMMG can pay up at this moment. And no way Sherwood wants to take as much of a discount as his play indicates at this moment. My guess is he keeps Sherwood and hopes things change for the better. If the season ends and it doesn’t work… Read more »

Ricky LaFleur

Do you think he’s worth something similar to Wennberg? Wennberg is a terrific skater and face off man with good defensive chops but for all the skills he has it seems like he came out of the womb snake bit.

Zeke

Wennberg would be worth a ton more. Best guess, he’d be worth a 1st and 2nd. We’ll see what Trocheck gets assuming he gets moved. I’d guess he’d get a bit more than Wennberg, but not by much.

Sherwood’s just not at that level.

SnarkFan

I think that if he’s playing thru a broken hand it’s really hard to tell what he’s worth.

wennberg is NOT a terrific faceoff man. I agree with the rest.🙂

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Ricky LaFleur

damn I thought he was better than he is, he’s only 45%. He’s got 38 points and a -17 at the TDL. Wtf are we paying him 6 milly to do?

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kads

He’s gotten by far the toughest matchups, I’d have to guess. Otherwise if you’re just looking at +/- then you would have to stop criticizing Will Smith’s defense.

Ricky LaFleur

Ya I guess your right if wennberg played only next to Macklin he would have a much better +/- , I’m only down on will because I come from a blue collar background and I don’t think much of people who don’t hustle.

kads

You sound like the kid in the cockpit in Airplane. Will’s been hearing that crap ever since he was at Boston College. He busts his buns every night! Tell your dad to drag MacKinnon and McDavid up and down the ice for 60 minutes!

Ricky LaFleur

Macklin puts out like Pete Rose and Rosie the Riveter had a love child, why can’t Billy Boy?

kads

He’s almost a point a game and hasn’t turned 21 yet. His passing is pretty elite

Jaws

His shot is pretty damn good too!

SnarkFan

Because he’s not gifted athletically like that dude. Celly is a unicorn physically. You’ve fallen into the worst trap that some of us have continually harped on. Don’t compare Smith to Celly. Ever! They’re nothing alike other than their hockey sense. You can compare their impact when Smith actually his his prime in a couple years. Considering where he is now, I bet he’s more than PPG player at that point.

Jaws

Hear you loud and clear about the BC ethic and my favorite shark before Smith was Hertl and I actually prefer the “will over skill” type players but Smith is a rare bird IMO in terms of some magical shit he can pull off out of nowhere. He’s a rich kid a true “prince” of the northeast and a descendant of Chicago sports royalty/infamy via his Comiskey blood and looks like a pretty boy jock type so per my punk rock roots he is so easy to despise but there is just something about his playing style. Quite frankly I… Read more »

SnarkFan

😜

Al Golagnic

Have his stick in the right place.

SnarkFan

He’s like many on this team playing higher in the lineup than he should. Too many minutes and taking the worst matchups. When Misa can handle 18 min a night and tougher matchups and the 4th line can break even or better on 10 min, Wenny will be a better looking player statistically.

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SnarkFan

Ewww…. He’s better than Kunin. At least he knocks people down.

Finny Damphousse

These tarps are sooo goddamn wet. Omg. Neds set up was just diabolical. Best looking sports team. Period.

Lucas

I love when Ned is in net with these jerseys or the Cali Fin ones. All black gear is such a good aesthetic for goalies.

SnarkFan

Still with the would have gone with the silver instead of gray.

Zeke

Well, I did get one of the things I wanted to see this season — Matt Davis gets a start with the ‘Cuda. ‘Cuda lose, 6-4. Davis gave up 5 goals on 36 shots. Looked like 2 of the 5 were definitely ones he should have had. He played a lot thru December with Wichita, but has played very little since. The other 3 goals, deflection in front, cross seam pass and breakaway where he made the initial stop but got beat on the rebound. I get those. But the two on shots from further out, no bueno. Want to… Read more »

SnarkFan

Different level of shooters. May not be able to make the jump. Just 1 game though.

Zeke

It wasn’t the shot quality that beat him. 2 of the 5 were just bad defense. One was a shot that changed directions at the net front. tough for any goalie. But the two that came from distance weren’t tough saves.

Maybe its rust, maybe he’s not going to cut it. I’d like to see a legit sample before making a call, but last night wasn’t great.

SnarkFan

already agreed about sample size. The others could be a factor of game speed as well not just shooting quality which is dramatically different.

Zeke

JD’s take on Davis was more much positive than mine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnf5E0_tfpM

SnarkFan

Goalies can take forever to develop. Don’t get discouraged. I hope you’ll be right about him one day even if it’s not with the Sharks.

Zeke

He turns 25 in June. Its time. I think he’s earned a fair shot at a job. A handful of game with the ‘Cuda seems like that shot.

I’d much prefer he get a dozen games or so. But I’m not sure he’s got that sort of window. For him, I guess the good news is none of the ‘Cuda goalies are particularly good. Even Brossoit has been so-so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liZzmlmOXMM

‘Cuda video of the goals in the game

SnarkFan

I’ve seen goalies take until almost 30 to make the NHL.

Mr. T

I had high hopes but yeah let’s see more. The first goal wasn’t great, and he didn’t look confident and maybe some rust. What is his size? Looks a little smaller which makes his path a little harder.

SnarkFan

Pretty sure he’s small comparatively. That’s the one thing I remember about him. Other than the fact that’s a gamer.

Zeke

He’s 6’1″. So not big. That said, I see a lot that I like about him. For starters, he played big in big games. Denver won the NCAA championship with Davis in net. Four straight wins. Denver scored 2 goals in each win. So not only was he big in big games, he was big in games that were big and close. I put a premium on goalies who are big in big games. The last 2 wins came vs BC and BU. Smith and Celebrini on those teams. Lane Hutson, Gabe Perrault, Ryan Leonard. Those were some high end… Read more »

Jeff

Any word on Ravensbergen? He was the highest selected goalie draftee in Sharks history. I’ve read that he will play next season for Michigan State U to continue his development for the NHL.

kads

So far so good with him. Pronman rated him very highly on a U23 list recently

Zeke

I don’t have anything on Ravensbergen. I can look up the numbers, but numbers don’t tell much of a story at that level.

bunnymcfoo

Point of Order: It’s just Michigan State. (Sorry, sorry, but I’m a Michigan girlie with family who went to State. It’s a thing) And yeah, Ravensbergen is State bound, which is a fucking fantastic thing. The current coaching staff have done an amazing job developing Augustine and I genuinely cannot think of a better place to have Ravensbergen move to for the next step in his journey. And the fact that I’m saying that as a Michigan fan should absolutely tell you how serious I am in my excitement here – normally I would never dream of saying anything complimentary… Read more »

SnarkFan

So awesome. Thanks for the info! 🙂

is the name from Eddie Murphy stand up?

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bunnymcfoo

No, it’s a nickname that I was gifted by high school friends in 1995 and which transitioned to being my online presence shortly thereafter. But hey, I love Eddie Murphy so if there’s crossover there that’s dope!

kads

I’m the same age as you and kids our age don’t say “dope”, haha

bunnymcfoo

I think we’ve both earned the right to not care what the kids are or aren’t saying 😛

kads

Hahahahaha

SnarkFan

No doubt. If my kids tell me not to say something from their vernacular it’s my new favorite phrase.

Mac Dawg

😆 I was gonna use the word “dope” in a reply yesterday, and I got self conscious, so I changed it. Sounds like I was right about being possibly being judged!!

Zeke

Nice update on Ravensbergen.

I’m a believer in finding prospects the right program for their development. Was hoping to see Misa go to Denver and play with Pohlkamp under Dave Carle, one of the better NCAA coaches. Alas, he decided NHL and its been a decent start for him.

Goalies are pretty unique in their coaching needs, so getting to the right spot is probably trickier. Sounds like Ravensebergen is going to the right spot.

kads

Yeah very interesting! You should post more about college hockey if anything ever feels relevant. A lot of people here are interested in that stuff but have no easy way to get info.. I know there’s an internet, but I’m also lazy and this is better

bunnymcfoo

Ha, I get that. Mostly I pay attention to Michigan – and therefore Michigan State because that rivalry is pretty intense – but I can tell you that McKinney has been having a really nice season for a college freshman. He’s mostly been centering Michigan’s third line – though he moved up to the second one on Friday – and is at .5 ppg, which is not half bad for an 18 year old kid in his first year in the NCAA playing roughly 15 minutes a game. I’m particularly happy with his face-offs where he’s at 60% on the… Read more »

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kads

Do you get to go to games or just follow from afar? As far as I can tell, ESPN+ has a lot of college hockey but I never have time to watch

bunnymcfoo

I’m out here in California but I try to make it back to Ann Arbor for a game every year – hasn’t happened this year but if they make it to the Frozen Four I’m going to do my best to go to Vegas for it.

I pay an absurd amount of money for the Big 10 streaming service every year so I can watch the Wolverines. Sigh.

kads

The frozen four is in Vegas? Wow!

I’m a Cal guy and we used to have a club team where the games were played at like midnight and the party was insane. One of my bigger regrets about school is not going to those games. But it’s hard to get into college hockey since I don’t have a horse in the race, but I do care about the Sharks prospects

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Jeff

It’s listed as MSU, Michigan State University. Perhaps you mean it is just referred to as Michigan State? Draymond Green went there. Good to hear that their hockey staff are well thought of.

Ted Pederson

I’ve watched a number of Cougars games and he’s just money. Seems like he never makes a mistake. He clearly needs to get to a higher level. I couldn’t feel any better about him. That said, when I saw Asky on the Cuda I thought he was anointed for greatness. We’ve seen that the next level can be a hard adjustment.

Ty Comes

Fuck yeah

Kevin

Misa has been our best forward these past few games and I’d say that Mukh, Dicky and Desharnais have been the best D.

Love all those things. Mack needs to regain his NHL form where he adjusts to being 100% the play driver.

Also, has Sherwood’s hands always been this bad or do we think this is injury lingering? He can’t hold onto the puck at all and then falls down.

Lucas

It has to be him not being fully over the injury. I don’t know if you noticed today but he had a white glove on his right hand underneath his hockey glove. I think I’ve made it pretty clear I wasn’t a fan of the trade but he’s a much better player than we have seen through 4 games.

SJ Sharkie's Cousin

The glove is because he has a skin condition. He’s talked about it before, maybe while on the Canucks.

But basically that glove isn’t there because of his recent injury.

Smokey Da Shark

I think I read somewhere that Sherwood has a skin condition where his hands react to sweating in the gloves so he wears a kind of glove liner. He also wears Sherwood mitts which is a pretty OG move.

Mr. T

I hope so. Was hoping for more. What do you think of him long term as first line winger with Mack and Smith? I understand sometimes you just need a certain ingredient, like the role they had Setoguchi play with Thornton and Marleau, but at the same time I feel the top line has been unconvincing thus far, even though some analytics show they generated a lot of chances.

kads

Give me Chernyshov on the top line and give me a Sherwood, Wennberg Graf 3rd line. Let Misa keep growing with Eklund and Toffoli and I think that’s 3 winning lines. So very many 4th line options once the team transitions past Goodrow and Reaves (who I have positive emotions for, I just think both aren’t championship caliber) too

SnarkFan

Agree on those lines but still prefer Cherny with Misa to balance out scoring. Ideally maybe it’s Celly, Smith Musty then Misa, Cherny, Toff next season with Eklund gone for a defender.

Jaws

Originally, I was hoping for Igor with WillMack but given what I’m seeing from Misa now I wonder if him and Igor get stapled together.
Warso can mix wingers around em?

Mac Dawg

That’s on point! I wanna see these lines happen

SnarkFan

Seto was a legit 1st line wing who skated, stickhandled, hit and put up 39 goals. He was also clutch. He was awesome until he got traded. No comparison to Sherwood IMO. If Sherwood is on this team in 2 years and they are a contender, I don’t think he plays in the top 6.

Sarge

Wore his sweater to the game yesterday

Jaws

A scoring winger for sure!
Seto was so fun to watch
An old high school classmate of mine did the airbrush artwork on his guitar promo for the Sharks years ago

Sarge

Loved his game…early on. Wish him the best.

SnarkFan

My understanding was he succumbed to alcohol for a while and it derailed his career. Seems like he’s doing better now. Wish him the best too!

Mac Dawg

That’s dope!

SnarkFan

Oops! Typo! Meant 30 goals.

Mr. T

I am a huge Seto fan, but whoa let’s pump the brakes a little here. He scored 20+ goals three times. 20, 22, and 31 (not 39). He’s precisely the type of player I wanted for this example. He did not have 1st line skill or finishing, but was a very good player who could provide a couple key ingredients on a first line with better players.

Mr. T

And I could certainly see a scenario where Sherwood could bag 20-25 goals and provide physicality if things all work out with the contract and he build chemistry with Mack and Will.

That said, I’ve liked the look of Graf or Cherny up on the top line much more thus far, with the small sample sizes.

SnarkFan

I’m betting he’s still injured. Makes sense it would be the lower right hand. If it’s the top hand he probably can’t play.

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SnarkFan

No. Best forward has still been Celly by a long way. Misa is just starting to look like an NHL level forward. Big difference.
No. Best forward has still be Celly by a long way. Misa is just starting to look like an NHL level forward. Big difference.

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kads

Hey look, the double update bug! Happened to me recently if you’ll recall Being an NHL level forward at age 19 is really good. 9 pts in NHL games 10-21 at this age is extremely good. Closer to Celebrini than to Smith on that front. He’s making his linemates dangerous too. I actually did expect a jump out of the break, but this started after Juniors, and maybe coincidentally the same time of year that Smith took his leap, despite playing 30 fewer games to that point. Smith is going to be a 100 pt player and he’ll improve on… Read more »

SnarkFan

Yeah that’s weird… no clue why it shows twice. I didn’t copy and paste anything… oh! I did edit and correct spelling of “been”. Still no clue why it copied the post though?

I was thinking the same about team Canada. Misa may be a legit contender in a few years. Isn’t there a World Cup in 2028?

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Jaws

I appreciate and agree with that assessment and your predictions

Zeke

Standings-wise, it appears just 3 Western teams are now locked into a playoff spot, with 2 more getting close. VGS and ANA both +10 (10 games over NHL .500) and while that’s not enough to get into the playoffs most seasons, its probably good enough in 2026. Still, if either team hits a major skid, they could lose their playoff spot. VGS next 6 games vs: BUF, DET, MIN, EDM, DAL, PIT. Skid is possible. 5 teams are below NHL .500 (-3 or worse) and they’re basically done. Which leaves 8 teams tightly spaced competing for 5 spots: VGS +10… Read more »

kads

Assuming the math on +4 is 86 points, that would be a 34 point improvement over last year, which is pretty nuts. That’s basically 17 more wins than last season. It’s so much better than I realistically thought possible. And this team is now very far from out of it. They have some tough games coming up, 2 against Montreal, 2 against Buffalo, but also quite a few winnable games as well. They can’t take too many more off nights like the Calgary games or the Chicago game before the break though

Zeke

I mean, they did essentially tank last season, post-trade deadline. They were probably close to a 70-ish point team before trading away their top goalie, top scorer, top d-man, top+/- guy and top face-off guy. The record last season was, by design, a lot worse than it needed to be.

As for the math, its definitive. Yes, +4 = 86 pts. The final pt total will be ‘games over NHL .500’ + 82. Next season, it’ll be ‘games over NHL .500’ + 84 with two more games in the schedule

kads

Yeah, let’s pretend the team last year was 70 pts with no tanking. I have looked this up before but I’m too lazy to do it now, but I want to say that would have put them 4th or 5th, and if they had lost the lottery the same way, that would have put their pick 6th or 7th. It was definitely worth the tank. Sure we all lament that we didn’t get what turned out to be a possibly legendary Dman, but Misa is still a guy who would have correctly gone 1st overall in about 7 of the… Read more »

Zeke

I was a big advocate of the tank, so preaching to the choir. Was not an advocate of ‘tanking’ this season, but also, still wanted the team to have a poor record and get a high enough pick to fundamentally change the defense (Verhoeff, though there might be others). At this point, only Vancouver is on pace for less than 70 pts. The 31st ranked team, StL, is just -7, which projects to about -9 or 73 pts. That said, I suspect more aggressive tanking is coming … with 5 teams between -3 and -7 If you want a mind-blowing… Read more »

bunnymcfoo

Look, even if we miss the playoffs – and I think it’s most likely that we do – I’d take finishing above .500 as a massive step forward for this team and am extremely excited that it looks likely to happen.

kads

Yeah, it’s all house money we’re playing with right now.

Better than the best case scenario I could have hoped for, honestly

Lucas

I have hockeystats.com’s new trade model fired up. I traded Sherwood to Tampa Bay for their 2027 2nd and 3rd. I traded Ferraro to Detroit for Hamonic, a 2026 2nd, and 2027 7th I recalled Chernyshov to play on line 1 and have Liljegren replacing Ferraro on our 2nd d-pair. Here’s how the model projects these trades would impact our points and playoff odds. 86.8 points -> 85.8 points 39.4% playoff chances -> 32.7% playoff chances Feel like adding 2 2nds, a 3rd, and a 7th would be worth the slight drop off in playoff chances. What are some hypothetical… Read more »

Lucas

If Sharks do nothing but recall Chernyshov and run these lines.

Chernyshov-Celebrini-Smith
Sherwood-Wennberg-Graf
Eklund-Misa-Toffoli
Kurashev-Gaudette-Regenda

Orlov-Klingberg
Ferraro-Mukhamadullin
Dickinson-Desharnais

They would be projected for 87.5 points and 45.4% playoff odds.

Al Golagnic

It’s hard to come up with who they might add, as players being brought in if they are buys and not rentals, are likely to be coming from bad teams getting started on sonething of a reset. They can’t trade Ferraro in those sorts of deals. That’s not what those teams would want. They have to be in two modes…dealing Ferraro/Sherwood/Regenda(?) for picks to teams adding for the playoffs. Then maybe selling their own picks/Eklund/Mukhamudullin for longer term help. This isn’t a real deadline for the latter type of deal, just have to lay off of it until the offseason… Read more »

Al Golagnic

Stanley’s more of a body than anything special, and will probably make too much even if it’s not that much due to size. So, really, I’d just like Raddysh and Shea.

SnarkFan

Nevermind I didn’t finish reading your comment.

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SnarkFan

Let’s hope they don’t deal Regenda. Makes me wonder if they’re holding him out for trade reasons though. Is Raddysh enough of a PP QB with this roster? Hoping he’s not just propped up by the talent in Tampa.

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kads

Raddysh has thrived with Hedman out, so hard to say. Dom Luscysysysycycyssysyn from The Athletic had some blurbs on a lot of the available defenders and let’s just say he wasn’t a fan of Schneider or Stanley. I still think Hamilton could be a great upgrade and I’m in favor of that if the Devils are greasing the wheels with The Walman. Add a 2nd and I’m happy to put that contract on my books the next couple years. Of course if they wait until after July, the actual cost in real dollars is $7.5M less because New Jersey would… Read more »

Dylan Smallwood

I like Dom as a pod guest but his views are purely from his model and I just don’t care for them. He goes purely off of analytics which tell a part, but not the whole, story. Not saying I like, or not, Schneider or Stanley but hearing that he doesn’t like them doesn’t move my needle at all. I would like a Hamilton at $2-million retained as the $9 you are paying for past years production this year which is not how trades typically work. Plus, NJD need to move him. I think that trade comes down at the… Read more »

kads

Well, I guess we may find out how long the list of teams that want him is, because he sure ain’t winning in Jersey. Remember that before the year, they thought they were Cup contenders. They were not.

Lucas

Personally I just don’t think Hamilton’s cap hit is an issue for the Sharks. The Sharks have so much cap space the next two seasons even taking into consideration Celebrini and Smith extensions. Hamilton would be off the books before Misa, Chernyshov, and Dickinson’s contract extensions would kick in.

My reservation is I just wouldn’t want to give anything up to get Hamilton. If New Jersey actually has to give up something to trade Hamilton, I would be all for trading for him at a full cap hit.

SnarkFan

They don’t need any money retained though. It’s just 2 years and it’ll help them get over the cap floor. it’s make him even cheaper to quire. May have even more entry level contracts on the roster next season. He’s not going to come with a 2nd or whatever. He’s not a throw away player. He’s still pretty legit which is why the Sharks should go after him.

SnarkFan

The one where they add Hamilton. Not sure what the compensation is.

Lucas

Draft compensation doesn’t impact this so I’m just doing Klingberg for Hamilton. I imagine there would be some draft assets moved in one or both directions.

No change to forwards and Hamilton in for Klingberg – +0.7 points and +5.4% playoff odds.

Hamilton trade and recalling Chernyshov – +1.4 points and +10.9% playoff odds (up to 51.2%)

kads

Oh I just replied to another post before I saw this. I talked about a signing bonus detail regarding Hamilton, but if they take Klingberg, maybe that makes it more palatable to do a deal now

Sarge

That makes so much sense!

SnarkFan

Oh nice! Thanks!

kads

I can’t believe how locked up the trade market is right now. Maybe teams are waiting on some late movers like Toronto or NYR or StL to see whether major pieces are truly available. Whether you like the Sherwood move or not, he’s arguably the biggest or 2nd biggest piece that has moved this season. No other team in the league but the Kings has meaningfully improved yet

Lucas

I don’t know what you mean by season but if it’s the NHL season, Sherwood isn’t remotely close to being the biggest or second biggest piece moved.

kads

Besides Panarin, what bigger piece has moved, in your opinion?

kads

Oh yeah, that Quinn Hughes guy. Let’s say 3rd biggest

Lucas

Andersson and maybe Chinakhov as well.

kads

I’ll have to concede Anderson since the return for him was higher. I will draw the line at Chinakov though

WW

I don’t know if Toronto is going to sell at all. Brad Treliving is probably getting fired if the team doesn’t make the playoffs. He has no incentive to improve the prospect pool for the next guy. Might as well leave a turd in the executive bathroom on the way out.

Because Trochek (NYR), Thomas & Parayko (STL) all have term, maybe their teams aren’t in a hurry to sell now versus the summer.

SnarkFan

That’s hilarious! 😀

Sarge

Vinny’s interviews are the greatest. If he isn’t the most likable guy on the team, he’s #2.

Darren

Edmonton just traded for Blackhawks defensemen for a 2028 2nd round pick. Chicago is also retaining 50% of his contract, which only has this year left on it.

kads

Feels like a floor for Ferraro if Grier does decide to go that route

Darren

I would certainly hope it’d be a 2026-27 pick and not 2028. Grier has always wanted a 1st, but that isn’t going to happen at this point.

Zeke

so few trades coming out of the freeze.

LeBrun suggests its because of the playoff cap, the loss of double retention and the tightness in the standings.

Also notes that there’s not a lot coming in free agency (and there wasn’t last year), adding interest in guys who aren’t rentals over guys who are. There are less of those.

Progshark

I don’t have much faith in Pierre. Especially after his superficial take on Grier’s rebuild during the teardown phase. I’ll just leave this here. The TL:DL meat and potatoes is at about the 5 minute mark.

https://www.tsn.ca/video/2026/03/02/mcguire-could-see-mcdavid-in-san-jose-if-things-dont-work-out-with-edmonton/

Zeke

Preds lose to the Wings. They have 2 more games before the deadline. If they lose the next 2, maybe they become a seller.

SnarkFan

Do they have anyone the Sharks should want?

kads

O’Reilly seems to be the main guy since Stamkos has a full NMC and said he isn’t waiving it. I don’t think any D are thought to be available

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