San Jose Sharks
REPORT: Sharks Willing To Flip Sherwood?
Hello and goodbye, Kiefer Sherwood?
“The Sharks are open to the possibility of flipping Sherwood if they can’t get him signed,” Pierre LeBrun wrote in The Athletic on Friday. “It’s more likely than not he’s moved if the Sharks can’t extend him over the next week.”
The San Jose Sharks, on Jan. 19, acquired pending UFA Sherwood from the Vancouver Canucks for a pair of second-round picks. This was a surprise at the time, the first time that the Sharks had added an impact player for the playoff push before the Trade Deadline since 2019.
Sherwood, however, had an upper-body injury at the time of the deal, and didn’t get healthy until right before the early February Olympic break.
Consequently, Sherwood has only played two games with the San Jose Sharks, coinciding with a downturn in the team’s fortunes, too.
San Jose has lost their five-straight, falling five points behind the last wild card spot in the West.
So it’s decision time for the San Jose Sharks with 30-year-old winger Sherwood: The price is, reportedly, about $30 million for an extension. LeBrun suggested that the Sharks had some sticker shock with that price tag. Also, Sherwood, at $1.5 million AAV right now, and his playoff-style of hockey, would be very in-demand on the market.
LeBrun did note that Sherwood wants to sign with San Jose.
It’s conceivable, however, for GM Mike Grier to get his seconds back, or maybe even a late first-rounder.
It’s shaping up to be a pivotal week for the San Jose Sharks organization: They’ve got a back-to-back this weekend, two of their three games before the Mar. 6 Trade Deadline, which could cement them as buyers or sellers at the Deadline.
And now, there appears to be a clock on Sherwood’s time in teal, too.
If they do flip him, I hope they go after Tuch in UFA. He’s the guy to blow a ton if cap space on who’s potentially available this summer. Then sign Hughes next off season. Then win multiple cups! Easy peasy, lemon squeezy! 😜
Keep on dreaming, as always.
Got anymore lies you want to peddle buddy? I know it’s tough coming in here and getting called out on your bullshit.
Anyway, incase you’re bad with context clues, the comment was tongue in cheek. Go ahead and look that one up. 😉
Tuch is good but hard pass on giving a 30 year a 7 year deal at what will probably be a very large AAV.
thats what you do when you want to win. you sign good players and accept that towards the end of it the contract might not look so great.
you can wait for whatever sounds perfect and if you do, you’ll never win, because if you don’t do it, one of your competitors WILL.
if you are contending, you can pay to ditch the contract if its that bad. sometimes they don’t age that bad anyway. the cap usually steadily rises which minimizes that too.
I’ve seen $10M+ AAV thrown out as the rumored asking price by his agent. Pretty large bump to his current salary…like 2x.
He’s a 60-PPG player who is 6’4″ and skates well and uses his size and is a plus player. 10mil in 7 years is probably manageable.we’ll see what the actual price tag is.
And quite injury prone. Only has 1 season where he played 82 games. Guaranteed Tuch will not live up to his next contract.
Hard pass.
And somewhere we are losing sight of the fact that we need D. D is the #1 problem. And willing or not, they need to flip Sherwood. In two games it seems like every time they show him he is down on the ice. How can he help when he can’t stay up?
If you don’t get him at a reasonable price move him. Middle six looks for big payday not high priority yet. Not skilled enough to play with Macklin bring up the big Igor after the deadline and put him on top line.
How about trade him to Buffalo and some sweetener’s and try to pry Mertka away. I fucking love that prospect, Sabres are buying and they have too many D men and we have too many forwards. Wow that would be awesome.
Mrkta is an intriguing prospect, but it’d take a bunch more than Sherwood to make that happen.
Sherwood + 1st?
Hopefully it wouldn’t require Sherwood & a first, but on the otherhand; imagine a future Wang-Mrtka pairing…
I doubt they’d play together, you want a complimentary partner, not a similar one. But I do like the idea of having that sort of 6’6″ length on two pairings.
If the future was Mrtka, Dickinson, Wang, Mukh — the idea of having some smaller d-men with them seems more palatable (Sahlin Wallenius, Pohlkamp, Cagnoni, Havelid)
Wang never sees the NHL light of day. Not unless we can’t admit our failures
Got any winning lottery numbers to share Nostradamus?
Kleber or Strbak could be had for just Sherwood. Both are large RHD that BUF owns.
Mrtka would be a great target or ASP from Detroit. Kleber (another Sabre not bad either).
I want Igor back and my uneducated hockey gut tells me that first line would be 🔥
In fairness to Sherwood, it’s only been 2 games on a new team post injury!?
It’s definitely unfair to judge him based on 2 games. But I think the issue is he might be wanting a contract that makes no sense for the Sharks.
The back-up plan.
Sign him for 3 years at $7.5mil per. Then flip him and retain 50%.
Sharks won’t need the cap space in that window, they’ll get a really good return for a guy whose probably worth close to $5mil per season over the next 3. Teams like the Avs, Lightning, Caps, Stars — win now teams with tight cap situations — would be good fit. The Sabres, too.
They can’t give him a full MNC. Maybe a 12 team no-trade list.
They will definitely want that cap space within the window you’re talking about here.
Have to disagree a bit about Sharks not needing that cap space. Celebrini, Smith, and Askarov are due for RFA contracts starting 2027. I think you have to earmark a decent chunk of change especially for Celebrini. If Askarov and Smith pan out, you want to make sure you have money for them (Askarov will be arb eligible I believe.) Then there’s keeping money free to improve your D. That cap space can go fast. I also think cap retention doesn’t command the returns it used to. There’s also the core problem of “will Sherwood settle for 3 years?” It… Read more »
They’ll possibly need the cap space in 4-5 seasons, maybe not even then. The team will still have a meaningful chunk of the roster on entry level contracts and a few more on RFA deals. Celebrini is the one player who can get UFA $$ in his RFA deal. The rest won’t. At this point, Askarov isn’t breaking the bank. It’ll be interesting to see how that evolves. fwiw, I know some people are noticing how much cap space the Sharks have and think its almost endless. Its not. But its also hard to ramp spending up that quickly. Team… Read more »
Sorry I agree with the others. They are going to be trying to add players over the next couple seasons. Some may come with already signed big contracts.
Bananas take.
It’s wildly unlikely all those players are sharks when or even if they make the NHL. Teams almost never made up of that many of their own draft picks.
Askarov isn’t going to cost much at this rate. Smith isn’t breaking the bank at this rate either.
You are going to be sorely mistaken if this is what you think.
Sure buddy. We’ll see.
Why use up a retention slot? San Jose are already using 2 of 3. You don’t just waste them for the sake of using them.
Any chance Sherwood gets traded to a contender in need of his unique skill set for perhaps a legit young close to NHL ready D prospect or young seventh defensemen collecting dust on the bench due to insane depth on behalf of said contender!?
Probably not but that would be awesome.
Sell please!
SJS is 11th in the conference, -25 goal differential, and Asky is not hot. It’s only one game but even Mack didn’t have as much spring last night.
Fans are coming back and proud of the progress regardless.
Go get another asset.
Asky was just fine last night
He’s at .869 for his 20 games Dec-Feb. I don’t think that’s going to help them into the playoffs.
Defense, defense, defense. Why do you think goalies play badly on teams like the Sharks and Oilers, then thrive on other teams once moved? Askarov will be fine when Grier shores up the D.
It’s the same team: forwards, defense, goalies, and coaches.
Asky was hot in November and he has not been hot since.
If he was playing at .940 recently then I’d have optimism that he can help them win games and get into the playoffs.
But he’s playing at .869 in three months and .889 for the year.
In goalie save percentage he’s 46th. He’s right after Skinner and Jarry, and just above Merzlikins and Ullmark. All four of those other guys have been notably bad this year.
I don’t see how ‘Asky is not hot’ is debatable.
Myself I’d lean on flipping him. That would be better than signing him for 7/8 year contract w/movement protection. I’d prefer a young d-man with top 4 upside, but I’d even be happy with a late 1st.
Nobody is giving him that long of a deal. He’ll get 4-6, tops.
I hope Grier doesn’t fall prey to sunk cost fallacy and end up overpaying Sherwood and give him too much trade protection and term. If you lose the trade, lose the trade. Don’t double down on a mistake.
He hasn’t shown an issue with sunk cost. He’s moved on from plenty of players he brought in.
The other part, agree. Don’t double down on a mistake. Though there is more than one way to extract yourself from it.
I know it only takes one GM, but I’d be surprised if anyone, Sharks included, offer Sherwood a package that reaches $25mil. It might not even get to $20mil. $5mil x 4 seems a pretty fair deal for a guy whose turning 31 shortly and doesn’t have a long track record of success.
I think that’s a naive opinion. You’re not taking into account the very real impact of the rising cap.
I do agree that Grier has no issue dropping a hot potato if necessary.
Something to consider with this information is the possibility of gamesmanship by SJ to try and get Sherwood’s camp to agree to whatever Grier is offering? Kind of like the Rangers making statements about Panarin’s potential suitors to try and help drive his price up, when in reality most of the teams were never really in the running.
This should be a very interesting 6 days.
Noted that Seguin is officially done for the season, Stars are in ‘win now’ and Sherwood would fit that team.
Stars and Oilers to start. Tampa, Florida, plenty of teams can bring him on with that low contract and I think the first is reasonable.
Sherwood did fine last night, just the whole team got Wolfed again. I have crossed back over the Rubicon and I don’t think this is a playoff team just yet. Best to claw back picks and possibly even profit off Sherwood and save the assets for another day
Wrong position.
Stars get cap space with the Seguin announcement.
They’ve got a strong top line but can use help in the middle 6. Which is where Sherwood belongs.
Don’t know how DAL or MN sees Sherwood, but since those teams are likely to meet in first round of the playoffs, might get a bidding war for him. As in, ‘he can play for you or against you’
What can we get for Sherwood packaged with Ferraro? Last season it was Granny and Ceci fetching a late 1st.
Yep that’s it exactly.the sharks aren’t good enough yet.all ufa should be traded and I would try to trade Eklund for a young d man
That should be a 1st and a 2nd.