San Jose Sharks
Wennberg Happy To Make Team Sweden, Wants To Sign Extension With Sharks (+)
It was early morning in San Jose on New Year’s Eve when Alexander Wennberg got the call that he’ll be headed to the Olympics with Team Sweden this year.
The San Jose Sharks forward said he was honored to be named to the roster, officially announced on Jan. 2.
31-year-old Wennberg is one of six players added to Team Sweden that weren’t on its Four Nations roster.
With 26 points through 40 games, Wennberg is on pace for his best season since his third year back in 2016-17 when he had 59 points. He’s also provided the San Jose Sharks high-end defensive play. His reward will be a trip to Milano-Cortina in February.
Wennberg spoke about getting that call, fellow Swede William Eklund’s disappointment in not making the team, potentially facing Macklin Celebrini and Canada, his UFA status, and more.
Wennberg on his reaction…
They gave me a call. Obviously it’s amazing. I’m so honored, so proud. And it’s really one of those pinch yourself moments. It’s a hell of an honor. I’m looking forward to being a part of it.
On getting the call…
I got the call from the head coach, Sam (head coach Sam Hallam) from Sweden right there. So obviously, been waiting here. I feel like I was right on the bubble to get the chance, the opportunity. So I’m really, really proud of that.
I think it was seven in the morning or something. Obviously I was up with the kids, but I knew that before, but right now to have it official, being out there. It’s a really special day. It’s hard to keep the emotions in, because it’s something you’ve been fighting for your entire life. So right now it’s been a really great day.
I got the call New Year’s Eve, so just got a few days to soak it in, celebrate with the family here. It’s been a long wait. The season here, we’ve been working, fighting with the team here, but obviously that personal goal to try to make the Olympic team. And now right here.
On having a chip on his shoulder after not making the Four Nations roster…
For me to represent Sweden, the Four Nations would have been a hell of an opportunity. Didn’t make a chance, an opportunity for me to push a bit extra, but I didn’t stop it there. I’m here to play for Sharks. I feel like we do whatever we can right here. If I play good hockey individually it’s gonna help the team as well. So the focus is on the team. Focus and do what we can do best here. And then obviously these things give you that validation that you’re doing some right things. So proud moment. But the focus is still here. We’re looking forward to the games. And it’s still a lot of games left here in the season, to try to push for the playoffs. So Olympics is going to happen. But the goal is still there.
On matching up against Celebrini if Team Sweden plays Team Canada…
Oh I said, I’ll go easy on him, otherwise. But to see Mack going there as well, I’m so proud of him as well. What a player, and to have the chance to maybe play against him. We’re going to see what happens. But it’s an unbelievable tournament. I grew up watching, I remember 2006 when Sweden won, and now to be a part of it myself. So it’s something really cool.
On the opportunity to play with other great Swedish players that he’s faced in the NHL…
It means a lot. Not only that, it’s a lot of teammates from playing with juniors, like the national team with the under-18 World Juniors. So it’s a lot of friendly faces that I know, and obviously really good players that you’ve faced. So to be part of this roster, this lineup that we’re going to have, and feel like I belong with them, it’s something that is really cool. And with the players that we have, I feel like the Swedish team – forwards, D-men, goalies – is a really good lineup. So we’re excited what we can do here in the Olympics as well.
On how the Olympics can help him for the end of the NHL season…
It’s great. It’s going to be a lot of hockey, but for me, right now, I’m feeling really excited and really enjoying what we’re doing right now. So play a little extra, keep warm during the break. That’s just going to help me even have a harder push. So try to take advantage of the extra ice time, extra opportunities. Right here that we’re going, right now, we got something good going. We’re excited about it here. So translate that into my national team game, and hopefully translate even more from that.
On the playoff-like atmosphere of the Olympics…
It’s going to be intense hockey. It’s elimination games right there. You’re going to play against some great opponents, great teams. That prepares you for what’s coming up here as well. I’ve played playoff hockey before. It’s really something different, something special. So it’s going to be exciting to be part of that and what we want to do here with the Sharks.
On NHL’ers not going to the Olympics previously in his career, this opportunity…
I’m well aware that this might be my last opportunity. Get a little bit older. So for me, didn’t have the chance with the NHL not going. So obviously this felt like my last opportunity to have a chance here to actually make the team. It’s really special. The career goes up and down. There’s some moments are not so great, and this is obviously a peak. So it’s an exciting journey to be part of a roller coaster, and you try to enjoy it.
On Team Sweden telling him why they chose him…
Just a quick conversation. Talked about me making the team and obviously had a role in mind. Right now, it’s still early, you don’t know exactly what it’s going to be, what lineups and all that. But my game, I play a 200-foot game, offensively, defensively, you can play me everywhere. So that really summarized my game, how to be a chameleon and just adapt to the situation. So whatever role they’re going to give me, if it’s being in the press box, being on the ice, whatever it is, I’m going to do my best. So that’s what I think they’d like to see from me.
On his memory of past Team Swedens at the Olympics…
The goal in 2006. I remember being up watching that, the goal by Nicklas Lidström and Peter Forsberg. Those moments, I still remember them like it was yesterday. So obviously, to be part of, take my jersey, and maybe create new memories would be amazing.
On the goal being to take home Gold…
100%. The goal is to win the gold. We have the team. We have wherever it takes to do it. So obviously, it’s a short tournament. You got to be ready from the get go. Right now, it’s still early, you just find out, I’m still soaking it in. But when we’re getting closer, when we get there, I feel like everyone’s going to be dialed in and ready to go.
On what’s been different this year that’s worked well…
It’s hard to tell. I really don’t try to change too much. A lot about my game is playing with confidence, and move my feet, and use the skating that I have. Ever since I got to the Sharks, I feel like the role I got, not only the coaches the trust they have in me, but I’m also seeing I’m growing and becoming better and better. I feel like this year is another step in the right direction, and then still try to work, try to be better. But like I said right now, with the chemistry that I have here with lines and everything, I feel really comfortable and just let me play my game.
On the opportunity to be a full time second-line center with Granlund departing last year…
Granlund, hell of a player, big shoes to fill, but I do my tweak on it, step in, and fill that spot, but also adding what I do best. Right now it’s working. We have a great team as well. I’m not doing anything on my own. This is a team effort. We’re all working together, the lines. So for me to get this validation, make this team, that I can’t do without the teammates as well, help me push in all we do. It’s been really fun year so far, but still a lot to go, and I’m really excited with what we have.
On if he’s friends with other members of Team Sweden…
I played with several guys, growing up with national teams and all that. So it’s a lot of familiar faces. So really excited to see all the guys there.
On whether he, pending UFA, wants to return to the San Jose Sharks…
I love it here. Right now it’s a lot of things going on and all that, so all I can do is to think about hockey, and then we’re going to see what happens. I have an agent to help with that and whatever is going to happen. But I really love the place here. San Jose as a city, but the team as well, the guys. I just have good things to say, and then we’ll see what happens.
On what it means to his family to represent his country…
It means a lot. Growing up, driving to those rinks, cold mornings, whatever it is, weekends, just putting in the time, and then all of a sudden, you see yourself in this situation. It’s a surreal moment. For my parents as well, I called them right away when I found out, and they’re really proud. Also, they’re celebrating New Years Eve, so I think they were in a good mood before. For them, for me, not only that, but for my wife, my kids, all that we work for, the effort we put in, and how much this means for us. So obviously, it’s special.
On when he might leave for Italy…
We got some info, but right now it’s still really early, just happened. The Olympics are going to come. Right now we still have games here, so I’m not really going to go home and pack here yet. We still have a lot of hockey left of us here. So going to take one game at a time, focusing with the Sharks. And when that time comes, and you do fly over there that’s when [you focus on it more].
On Eklund being disappointed to not make the team…
Eky’s a hell of a player. I love his game, and I feel like he for sure could’ve been on this team. Whoever takes up the lineup could have different views on it or not, but he’s still so young, he’s going to have his opportunity, so it’s going to come. I for sure understand that he’s disappointed, but like I said, he’s a hell of a player. I feel like he might has well have been on this team. He’s so bright and I see what he’s doing right now, just unbelievable.
On Eklund’s time still coming…
He’s that good, the time has to come for sure. It has been unlucky, whatever happens with the national team. Everyone who wants the opportunity, had the opportunities, and now he hasn’t been able to do it, but trust me, the way he’s playing his game, he’s just going to get better and better. So I think he has some great hockey ahead of him. At the moment, it might not be the best feeling, but he’s going to get through it.
Seems like he was more gracious about that extension question than specifically talking about wanting to sign an extension. I think he knows the business as well as anyone, getting shipped at the deadline the last time he was a pending UFA, so he knows it could happen again, especially when his value is up. Like Granlund before him, Wennberg has been a great Shark and person and no matter what happens, I will always wish the very best for the player. Except when we play the Ducks or whatever team Wennberg might go to. But if Wennberg really would… Read more »
Yeah I’m not seeing where he said he wanted to re-sign. Just typical in season response to the question. Seems like it’s more likely he gets moved and Bystedt gets a look at 3C IMO. Maybe Zeke gets his wish with Smith at center to end the season.
Doubt he bring back what Nelson did but a 1st to maybe package for a 23 year old RD potential #1 wouldn’t suck.
But I think you and I were on the rare same page in that we want to see Wenny resigned; don’t want to see a Granlund redux situation particularly because isn’t Wenny a couple of years younger than Granny?
Only 1 year younger when the contract starts, though. 2 years younger by age. Granlund’s 3/$21M is probably a decent guess at what he’ll get. Just like last year, there will be a lot of teams with a lot of money and holes to fill. Re-signing a player in Wennberg’s situation will probably make more sense about 3 years from now when the pipeline isn’t as chick full of talent and the team is filling the final holes on a championship roster. But I don’t think the team can pass up a chance to accumulate assets and make one or… Read more »
I like Wennberg a lot and I want him to stay with the Sharks. Imo, there are other players that will be moved by TDL or summer, so it doesn’t have to be him that gets moved for future assets. I’ve heard that Grier really likes him and the intangibles that he brings on ice and locker room, so Wennberg may get extension and he’s got a lot of support from other players on the team which Grier takes into consideration as well.
I’m good either way. If they trade him and use the asset to acquire a young D I think that’s best long term. That would also mean the staff thinks they have his replacement in house. The franchise has a ton of guys who can play center.
Yeah but playing center is one thing, the full game that Wenn and Granny have to offer is not so easy to come by. Again, the mix of vets and youngsters that Grier mentioned early on is important for this team. I don’t want to have a couple of young centers with “potential” in their future when having a player like Wenn for another three years gives you the “full service” center that will be important to have as the Sharks start threatening in the playoffs. Even relegating Wenn (eventually) to 3C I would hope to think would be that… Read more »
Guys’ll have to grow into the role. Wendy is not a 2C on a contender. So he’s not going to put up numbers like he is without PP time and a lot of minutes. Once Misa is ready, Wenny should be more of a defensive player only. It’s not impossible to turn one of the many centers in the Org into a good maybe great 3c. Can’t fall in love with the 30 year olds at this point in the rebuild. Especially guys who don’t produce great numbers. If I’m picking guys his age I would rather sign Tuch for… Read more »
I like Alex Tuch as well but comparing him to Wennberg is apples and oranges. With Misa coming Wennberg can easily be moved to a 3rd line center and then Sharks would have really good three lines. To play on the 4th line Wenberg is not physical enough but having someone like #75 (always forget his name) on wings would solve the problem as well.
No it’s not. It’s about salary and roster allocation. The system is flush with centers and the next prospect to likely make the NHL is a center (Bystedt) along with the kid Misa who already made it and likely takes one of the top 3 center spots on the team full time next season. This is about the future not instant gratification. I already said I’m fine either way but I definitely see why you would move Wennberg.
I do agree with you. Wennberg gets a lot of support at the players meetings and Grier knows that and values Wennberg a lot. Skinner was excellent and high scoring forward before he got injured, so I believe that he will be gone alone or as a part of package for RHD to a team that needs his type of services.
You just fabricated crap to try and support your opinion. Don’t do that. Skinner got off to a decent start prior to his injury but calling him a high scoring forward is a huge imaginative reach.
Wennberg is 3 years younger than Granlund which is a lot.
2.5 years. But it’s 1.5 years younger at the start of the analogous contract. That also matters and might mean Wennberg gets 4 years somewhere instead of 3. Like Toffoli, he might be looking for stability on a team. Weirdly, the Sharks probably aren’t that team during this time period as they figure out the pieces that fit around the young core talents
Couldn’t have worded it any better.
Sharks are making it really hard on GMMG to trade players away. Those 3 games vs VAN, ANA and MIN were 3 unique challenges. VAN was finding ways to win post-Quinn Hughes, and if Demko is on, they’re tough to beat. But Sharks did. Outplayed vs ANA and even with a goalie mishap, Sharks found a way and in regulation, no less. The Wild are legit among the elite this season, and to play evenly wit them and win in OT, again with a soft goal, that’s another step. Earlier in the season, but after the initial losing streak, the… Read more »
Yeah, but another way to look at it is to see the difference between the Sharks and the real contenders and remember that the team would finish tied for the 11th worst point total. 88 pts is a 36 improvement over last year, which would be equivalent of 18 more wins (makes sense since they have already equaled last year’s win total), which is crazy. I said before the year I would be over the moon with a 10 (20 pt) improvement. This team is fun to watch, and they play with a lot of heart. But they are not… Read more »
“It’s why I waste my time on fan sites and Mike Grier gets paid.” nice!! In the cold, hard “we’re trying to build a championship team” light of day — this team isn’t the one which will become a contender. Nor will it evolve to a contender. The ability to be an annual contend will come from a productive pipeline over the next 5 or so seasons. That’s where the investment makes the most sense. Sharks were rated at or near the top of “pipeline rankings” for the past few seasons. But enough of that pipeline has graduated — Macklin,… Read more »
Even more sobering, with Wenny and these UFAs like Ferraro and even Eklund that people seem to love so much… this team is like dead last if Celly goes out with an injury (knock on wood) for any length of time. Make no mistake just how much he is propping up the scoring on this team. 40 years watching the sport I’m not sure I can remember another player doing it to this degree. That means there still aren’t enough difference makers in the lineup. That means anyone who doesn’t have the potential to help this team be a contender… Read more »
If Sharks are still in the hunt by the trade deadline, then they should not trade Wennberg. But Grier shouldn’t be pressured into signing a contract that doesn’t make sense in the long term either. If Wennberg becomes a trade deadline own-rental, then so be it.
Agreed. I would rather that then sign him for 4×7 which is probably his minimum number.
Again… In the hunt for what? The 8th playoff spot? The idea of the playoffs as a reward for this team is intriguing. I think Grier is going to need to work with his future captain and either take the temperature of the situation or try to impart the wisdom that there are bigger fish to fry in bigger ponds. We know how tight this team is, but a lot of the guys are bootstrap pieces who are destined to be upgraded from without or within. We are still on the journey, nowhere near the destination. Wennberg might be our… Read more »
Even if it’s missing out on a 1st round pick for a first round sweep, you need to let the players have a fair shot. Hasso probably wouldn’t mind the TV revenue either, but the mood in the locker room will sour very fast if they think management is cutting the legs out from under them. This team especially needs to keep Celebrini happy. i’ve been 100% for getting assets for veterans, but keeping players like Celebrini happy is even moreimportant. A hyper-competitive guy like that will not forgive management if he perceives them as cutting his legs when he… Read more »
Hasso does not care about the money. Go look at his net worth. Miss out on the wrong 1st round pick and you could miss out on your future con Smythe winner. Sliding doors, you never know.
its not cutting his legs if Wenny is traded and they bring up Bystedt and Misa comes back.
It looks like you have Sharks getting just 1 more win in last 42 games than they got in first 40 games! I strongly believe the Sharks will make playoffs and will win more than just 1 game more in second half of the season. What people don’t see is that the Sharks now are ALL in, and want to get to playoffs. I do know from semi-insider that the only guy who wasn’t sold-out on the team, plans and projections was Klingberg. Now, look at his game and behavior during first 8 weeks and compare with his game and… Read more »
You’re full of shit and you’re making stuff up. you gotta stop that buddy. What are you like 13 years old?
The only guy clearly not all in or simply hasn’t recovered from his injuries is Leddy. Klingberg was in from the start, it was his body that couldn’t do it.
Wario wasn’t holding them back. They weren’t playing how he demanded. Now they are for the most part. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
The Sharks have $54M in cap space next season, most in the league. Yet look at the C replacements if Wennberg is traded away. Sharks are ready to make that jump next level and a Celebrini/Misa/Wennberg combo is one heck of a top 9 for centers. Pay him, keep the vibes and continuity for a change. Both with the team and fans. Its not like any draft pick they get will even be as good as Wennberg in 5 years anyway.
If they’re going to make the next jump they need to spend money on a playoff worthy defense and Misa is going to need to become a competent NHL center. The Sharks becoming a contender is going to have to come from mostly internal improvement of prospects. Not 30 year old third line centers.
It’s not even who they decide to spend money on. There is literally no one. The best options out there will be the Klingbergs of the world.
They need to trade for their big piece if they don’t want to wait 5 years to draft him. And in order to trade for somebody, you need assets. And in order to get assets, you need to trade something away. And if you don’t want that something to be your young forward core, it should probably be the veteran who is playing great hockey and has peak value
Obviously we agree 100%. I’ve been saying since last summer they need to trade for their #1D.
I’m on the same page. Sharks players want to get the “taste” of playoffs and that’s possible for next 2-3 season, so keeping Wenny makes sense to me and as you stated, developing young drafted center takes a long time. Until Sharks become a contender, 3yrs. imo, they will keep trying on improving by trades and using young guys from the pipeline and it is not guaranteed success. Getting into playoffs will also paint better picture about what’s really needed outside of improving defense.
They likely don’t need a UFA center replacement. They don’t need whatever draft pick they get to be as good as Wennberg or immediately. they need help defensively. The pick gives them assets to trade or draft defensemen.
I think Wennberg’s value as a player already went up after being selected to Swedish Team. I really like his game, no up and downs, steady every game and great mentor for the youngsters. Good Luck to Wennberg and the Sharks, and good Luck for him at the Olympics! I do hope GMMG will sign him to a new contract, he deserves it and the Sharks deserve him.
Going to double comment, but since this is the top comment questioning my interpretation, I’m going to leave this up here: He literally follows my question in the video, “Do you want to stay with the Sharks?” with “Yeah, I love it here.” He told the Athletic this in Anaheim: “I’m a Shark right now and would love to be one, but we’ll see what happens.” https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6929815/2025/12/30/macklin-celebrini-sharks-nhl-playoffs/ It doesn’t mean he’s going to stick his neck out to stay here and take a hometown discount, but if the Sharks offer him something that he deems fair, I have no idea… Read more »
elite prospects scout talking Chernyshov
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVn0bDJkMMU
That’s not a scout. That’s just some kid in his parents house with a webcam.
he works for elite prospects
I don’t care. His presentation is unprofessional and he doesn’t have anymore knowledge than anyone commenting here.
Sebastian absolutely knows his shit. EP are one of the most respected groups of public (non-NHL-team) scouts, and all of them watch and intelligently analyze an ungodly amount of prospect tape, and they all debate and weigh in on the rankings. As he says, he was raving about Chernyshov back when the scouts Sheng spoke to at the draft said he was a bull in a china shop and a liability. Not sure what about his presentation you find unprofessional but this is just a snobby miss.
I liked the part with the professional cat.
Nope. What’s up with shooting into that homeless encampment he calls an apartment. What are his credentials? Has he actually gone out and scouted anyone? Did a team ever have him on payroll as a scout? I’m betting those are all no. He’s just some dude on the internet watching hockey that started calling himself a scout.
You can’t get hired by EP without a strong resume. Why don’t you look him up instead of guessing and making shit up? Are YOU 13?
Eat 💩 Joey. 😜 I watched enough of the video, I stand by my comment.
Dudes like 23 or 24? He’s a twitter/podcast scout. Sorry, that’s not a real scout. Ask an actual team’s scout what they think, I bet they don’t consider him a real scout.
Maybe he’d have time to tidy his apartment if he wasn’t busy watching more hockey than you do. You this big of a snob about Keegan or Zubair or JD?
JD admits he’s just some dude and yes I appreciate his efforts but he’s hilariously wrong quite a bit just due to lack of actual playing experience or real scouting experience. Keegan doesn’t call himself a “scout” and his fixation on guys certain guys sometimes disqualifies his takes. Zubair is definitely just a dude like the rest of us. None of that is really what this was about. This Sebastian dude should make an effort and not have his background just be a cluttered apartment or room in his parents house. It simply looks unprofessional. Considering his age he’s just… Read more »
I had forgotten, so thank you for the reminder that you’re not actually worth engaging with.
Well deserved! love the player and agree with moving him if it’s part of a legit 1D trade package. Otherwise I like the idea of him mentoring more talented future replacements with his own talents and experience! Would love to
make the playoffs this year as long as it doesn’t hurt or overall “true” contention window in any way logistically and/or
psychologically!?
not sure how many had Eklund missing the Olympics and Wennberg going. But I doubt it was many.
Do wonder if Eklund’s offseason injury has played a role in his inconsistent season.
I did. No playoff resume, no elite characteristic, not physical… he’s not a 3rd or 4th line player in a best on best and he’s not displacing anyone of the top 6. Wennberg has size, defensive play and high end skating and puck transporting. Very good passer too.
Why would he not slot in a bottom-6 in a best on best? He’s better this year and most years than Pontus and better this year than Rakell.
I don’t think it’s odd that Wenny made the team, but I think it’s an oof moment that Pontus and Rakell made it over Eklund this year looking at it objectively and not as a Sharks fan.
I’m not sure he is better this year. It’s obvious why he wouldn’t be in the bottom 6 of best on best. If they can’t play him in the top 6 with guys who can make space and handle the puck transporting, I don’t see his playing.
Very good assessment and I think the same but wish he was more physical. Scratch that…one can’t have it all for the price of Wennberg.
You must be living off Wendy’s gravy train. Did his agent send you here to pump his tires?🤣FFS dude take a breath on Wenny. You should change your name to Jerzy Hyperbole.
Wait, Sheng, didn’t you have a similar story last year and it was also a misleading title? Then, boom, trade for a 1st round pick lol. Trying to will a draft pick? 🙂
oh nice! Sheng wants a better team too! More fun to report on.😜
Lots of similarities to the Granlund situation… Guy about the play for a top 4 country in best on best, going into UFA, playing great hockey… Seller’s market. Check check check check The Sharks were also playing half decently last year in that stretch before they dealt Blackwood and then Granlund too. Of course that team beat up on the weak part of their schedule, so it was a bit of a mirage. This team is beating some good teams along the way and the feel is far different. But unlike last year when they dealt away guys and replaced… Read more »
What if they get a chance to take down Vegas, LA, or Anaheim in the first round? It’s not certain that we’d have to settle for the last wild card spot
You can’t plan for that or keep guys hoping for simply a 1st round upset. Wilson once had a TDL where he dumped guys like Murray and CLowe who were clearly too slow for the nHL at that point and added guys that helped for the playoff run. Nothing says they can’t move their most desirable UFAs and then trade for someone who helps this season and in future seasons. For example, trade Wennberg and Ferraro and change for 2 1sts or a 1st and a 2nd. Then move those and Eklund or some appropriate combo for Tuch or someone… Read more »
Orlov, Byram
Shak, Lily
Dicky, Iorio
Klingberg, Deharnais
Suddenly you have plenty of RDs.
After they still keep their own 1st and 2nd round picks.
Out is Wennberg, Ferraro & Eklund. I can live with that.
I’m not sure if you’re joking, but what’s misleading about this title?
He literally follows my question in the video, “Do you want to stay with the Sharks?” with “Yeah, I love it here.”
He told the Athletic this in Anaheim: “I’m a Shark right now and would love to be one, but we’ll see what happens.”
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6929815/2025/12/30/macklin-celebrini-sharks-nhl-playoffs/
It doesn’t mean he’s going to stick his neck out to stay here and take a hometown discount, but if the Sharks offer him something that he deems fair, I have no idea why he wouldn’t stay.
I hate to nitpick but that’s not what it says above. He doesn’t say “yeah, I love it here”. He says “I love it here”. That answer feels almost like brushing aside the question to answer his own question. PR 101. Without the “yeah” it’s pretty ambiguous especially with the “We’ll see what happens”. That’s pretty much verbatim what nearly every UFA to be has said since they moved the UFA age down to 27 or whatever it is. I think even Tavares said some variation of it right before he bolted out the door in Long Island. I would… Read more »
Listen to the video.
I didn’t watch the video, I just saw the transcript. And, it made me think of a post last year that preceded a trade. Was just giving you a hard time, Sheng!
This game against Tampa sucks. Ned replaces a shaken Asky and gives up 3 quick goals. Sharks backup not that good