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Patrick Marleau, Matt Nieto & Saying Goodbye to Joe Thornton?



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Kyle, Erik, and JD break down the San Jose Sharks’ latest news, like the signings of Patrick Marleau and Matt Nieto and where they fit in on the roster and their expected roles. We continue our look at the defenseman available who the Sharks could sign (13:30), then talk about Doug Wilson’s press conference today, and if we’ve seen the last of Joe Thornton in a San Jose Sharks jersey (16:15). Check out the podcast on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook.



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Halfway in…seems like these guys take 100% of their views from the stats and love to bash the establishment. I think there are a lot of merits to the claim that Thornton is a loser. Would be happy to discuss.

Kyle Demetrius

Hey John. I am one of those guys. What would you like to discuss?


I think that the narrative that Joe Thornton is a bad playoff player/loser has a lot of merit. In hindsight, one of the worst decisions of Wilson’s tenure was making that trade and then continually keeping Thornton.


What? How can you say that one of the worst decisions of Wilson’s tenure was to trade for Thornton? He was one of our best players for years and he’s invaluable in the locker. Playoff performance isn’t everything. I don’t understand how you can’t see that Thornton was an instrumental piece of getting us to the post season during his tenure. You have to get to the playoffs to get a chance at the Cup. There are definitely criticisms that can be made of some of Wilson’s decisions, but I don’t see that having Thornton in teal is one of… Read more »

david barnard

Barry Bonds had a bad post season rep until he didn’t. was he bad for the Giants? i think he was part of the reason Giants bb was saved for the Bay Area. he didn’t do it altruistically, but that’s not relevant.


The assumption is that the rep Thornton has is unfair because he’s just been a product of bad luck and circumstance, and not actually of his own failings that make him a much less useful player come the playoffs.

The story is in on Thornton. During his time as a leading player in the NHL, he was an absolute playoff failure. Winning the cup as the tertiary piece on the team won’t change that.

david barnard

i think there’s merit to the case both PM and Jumbo have been post season disappointments throughout their careers. neither were able to carry this team to much success. it drags on their HHoF aspirations. they weren’t even the best Sharks playoff performers-which belongs to LC and even Pavelski imo.

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